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oneHITwonder

Actually this is a two part question.
My gym has a line of Cybex machines that replaced Nautilus but still has the Nautilus on another floor(out of the way, if you know what I mean). My questions are these:

1) Are Cybex machines comparable to
Nautlius?

2) If not, where can I find
instructions as far as correct seat
position and such short of buying an
old Nautlius book?

Thanks in advance..
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AShortt

Ontario, CAN

I strongly suggest sticking with the Nautilus machines, just line up your joints rotational point of axis with that of the machines (often they are marked with red dots on the machines).

Regards,
Andrew
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Cherry

i've used Cybex commercial equipment and see nothing wrong with it. Very smooth, well designed machines comparable to the Nautilus line, imo
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BretC

New York, USA

I don't like the Cybex line. The machines didn't feel as solid as the Nautilus. I also don't think they are designed as well. I tried to use the only low back machine at my gym. It is very awkward to get your pelvis lined up with the axel. My but is too far forward and it makes the movement wrong.

Bret
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DSears

I used to workout in a gym with a complete line of Cybex. Most of them were not up to the same level as the equivalent Nautilus machines. On a lot of them the strength curves just didn't feel right, for example on the bicep curl the movement felt way too heavy at the top of the range of motion. Their pullover is the same way, it's strength curve isn't even close. Some of their chest press machines and military press machines aren't too bad though.

The Cybex I've used wasn't total junk, I could get a decent workout on it but IMHO they could be better.

I've been buying and fixing up my own machines as I can afford it and I"m sticking to Nautilus. The only non-Nautilus machines I'll consider would be Hammer, MedX, and Superslow Systems. I'd like to have a Hammer leg press and bicep curl. I'd also like to have some of the Eccentric Edge equipment for negatives. I've heard great things about the Tru-Squat by Southern Exercise but haven't had the chance to try it.

David
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Cherry

BretC wrote:
I don't like the Cybex line. The machines didn't feel as solid as the Nautilus. I also don't think they are designed as well. I tried to use the only low back machine at my gym. It is very awkward to get your pelvis lined up with the axel. My but is too far forward and it makes the movement wrong.

Bret


every brand has its "junk", ie machines that just don't feel right.

:)
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DSears

I agree. You've got to wonder if they even test them themselves.

One of the best I've ever seen was by Superslow Systems and there was an adjustment dial where you could set the cam. The leg extension and bicep curl I tried that had that feature were incredible.

David
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oneHITwonder

Thanks for the responses. So many so quick.


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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

I've used both brands a lot.

Cybex has some great machines, with good resistance curves (as least they feel "right" to me). I especially like:
Chest Press
Incline Press
Curls
Triceps (especially the models with the back pad that hold you in place and don't let you cheat)
Pec Deck
Lateral Raises

I will say that I like the above every bit as much as any Nautilus machines I've used. I big consideration is how well the Naut have been cared for --- they can get pretty "sticky" if not maintained.

I prefer Cybex for Leg Press. The Duo-Squat just never did it for me. On the Leg Curls, the Cybex has the bend at the hips, which is not on the Nautilus.

I will say Nautilus is superior on a number of machines:
4-way Neck (Cybex machine is OK, but I can never get the face pads to sit just right)
Lower Back
Leg Extensions

Shoulder Press is a toss-up between the two --- the Cybex is palms-forward grip and Naut is neutral grip.

I you have access to any of the Naut combo machines, obviously those are a great resource for pre-fatigue and reverse pre-fatigue.

Scott
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DSears

I just remembered one Cybex I like really well, it's a tricep machine that's made like a seated dip machine.

David
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NewYorker

New York, USA

I've used the Cybex VR and VR2 machines. The VR2 machines are pretty good. The VR not so good.

I've also tried some of their plate-loaded equipment. These were really bad.

I haven't used Nautilus since the Next generation line, these were outstanding machines.
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NewYorker

New York, USA

DSears wrote:
I just remembered one Cybex I like really well, it's a tricep machine that's made like a seated dip machine.

David


ditto
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Bill Crawford

Arizona, USA

Haven't used much Cybex equipment, but I did use the Pullover, and definitely like the Nautilus Pullover better.

There is a Cybex calf machine that I really like. I have very strong calf muscles and find the standing machines really hurt with the way they compress my shoulders. The seated machines kill the tops of my knees. The Nautilus Multi Exercise is excellent for calf raises because it loads your hips and avoids shoulder / back issues.

The one Cybex machine that is cool hasyou sittting on a little seat that has a very low back (more like a ledge). You extend your legs in front of you at about 35 degree decline. The weight goes through your hips and not into your back. I think that is a great machine.

Thanks,

Mac
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Landau

Florida, USA

Early Eagle equipment were poor copies of the original Nautilus Equipment. Eagle, the original company was bought out by Cybex early on. Their line over the years was very average to use at best. 3 years ago they changed engineers and I sought out the main engineer, and his work on the lower body machines in their Eagle line has paid off. Their Leg Press, Leg Extension, and Leg Curl are excellent pieces. Their upper body equipment has basically followed the VR2 line, which is really lousey. So what Eagle has to date is rather great Lower Body Machines and very average at best Upper Body Machines. Nautilus machines have had their good and bad, and it would take a whole article to explain. To summarize, I would LOVE to have any of the original machines that Arthur had a hand in designing. David
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JJ McClinton

Landau,

Who is the engineer that you sought out? What made the lower body machines that he designed so effective? Would be interested to hear more of your input on this area.
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Landau

Florida, USA

It was their head engineer and he had previously worked in their "medical" and cardiovascular departments. The Leg Press has to be tried to be appreciated and there are appropriate resistance "fall offs" in the finished positions in both their Leg Curl and Leg Extension Machines. Try them out for yourself, but again these are the New Eagle Line. David
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