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Lud

I was able to obtain a Next Gen Super pullover for a great price recently. It feels great, but it seems a bit narrow. The distance between axes is 24". I've got maybe an inch of space from my shoulders to axis cover. My daughter's boyfriend (6'6", 350) can't begin to get into the machine. Did Nautilus make this version in a women's or small style and that's what I have?

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WesH

Even Steve Reeves was only 23.5" across the shoulders, so Nautilus probably figured 24" would get the job done.
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Nautilus1975

He doesn't fit in it?

Read post #4 in this thread"

http://www.drdarden.com/...ic.do?id=478639


I would say most pro football players fit in Nautilus machines - many were designed specifically for them...


The only one I ever had trouble fitting in was the bicep/tricep combination machine - no way - too tight.


That looks like a standard Next Gen pullover to me - I used to have a 52 inch chest and I fit in them fime - still have almost 50....
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Lud

I'm 6'3" and 240, have been 280#. Chest still about 50". As I said, I've got 1", maybe 1-1/2" from shoulder to axis mark. Aaron (daughter's boyfriend), as I said, is much bigger than me. He's off at a state J.C. on football scholarship. Big, strong, kid and is very wide. He is easily 3-4 inches wider than the machine! (axis covers) That was why I originally asked if the next gen. machines had been made in two sizes, like some of the earlier machines. I love it, but it is a bit tighter than the first gen machines I trained on and trained others on in early and mid 80's.
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Bill Sekerak

California, USA

Yes , I am pretty sure you have a womens version, if I remember correctly they also made a chest cross in a smaller version as well.
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

The first gen pullover is a wider model. I have some females at my gym who aren't wide enough to use it properly so I have to put them into the second gen model which is a much narrower and tighter machine.

Maybe look for a used first gen?\

Michael
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

I have a first generation plate loading pullover ( it sits idle now) I stopped using becuse I am too small for it. It seems like it was made for big guys and the mechanics of it just didn't fit my 5 foot 8 inch frame. I recently bought a newer super pullover and it fits me nicely so I'm back to doing pullovers.

I think alot of the nautulus machines were made with big guys in mind, especially the older ones.I had the same problem with the double shoulder I used to own. Then I found a later model Nautilus delt lateral rise machine ( for free no less!) and it fits me perfect!

Scott
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kurtvf

Lud wrote:
My daughter's boyfriend (6'6", 350) can't begin to get into the machine. Did Nautilus make this version in a women's or small style and that's what I have?



Wait a minute, you have a 6'6" 350 lb. boyfriend-in-law and you wonder why he doesn't fit into an exercise machine?? He is probably in the top 1% of the population for height and weight. I'll bet he won't fit into a Geo Prism either. I'd bet the later Nautilus models were downsized to better fit averaged sized people, I'd agree you would probably have better luck with an earlier model. I'll measure my Gen I to see if it is wider.

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kurtvf

WesH wrote:
Even Steve Reeves was only 23.5" across the shoulders, so Nautilus probably figured 24" would get the job done.


If Reeves stood next to a guy who was 6'6' 350lbs. he would disappear!
I have a pic in front of me of Sergio Oliva in a plate loader and it looks like he fits easily. How wide were his shoulders??
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Nautilus1975

I don't know if that is a womens unit or not - it sure looks like the standard Next Gen pullover - especially with those two rear upper frame pads being the same dimension as all the others I have -

I know they made a womens 2nd Gen Unit, the one with the teardrop pivot point pads, but it looked nothing like anything else - It was obvioulsy a completely different machine

The footprint of a pullover is roughly the size of a standard skid....


They list a "smaller framed" Next Gen unit in their data sheet, but give the exact same dimensions and weight as the full sized, and I have never seen one, so I assume there probably isn't one. If there is, why would it give the exact same frame size and weight as the "full sized" unit


I have a full womens Next Gen Circuit and the machines are basically the same as the mens, including the pullover, except they say Womens and the have Aluminum weight plates that weigh less.....



Also - you got me thinking about shoulder width - I barely fit through a 28 inch door frame in the shoulders - I do not fit through it without turning sideways with my arms curled at my side by any means -


I fit in all the pullovers fine....
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Lud wrote:
My daughter's boyfriend (6'6", 350) can't begin to get into the machine. Did Nautilus make this version in a women's or small style and that's what I have?



kurtvf wrote: Wait a minute, you have a 6'6" 350 lb. boyfriend-in-law and you wonder why he doesn't fit into an exercise machine?? He is probably in the top 1% of the population for height and weight. I'll bet he won't fit into a Geo Prism either. I'd bet the later Nautilus models were downsized to better fit averaged sized people, I'd agree you would probably have better luck with an earlier model. I'll measure my Gen I to see if it is wider.



For a guy that big, you might need to check out the Nautilus Equipment made for NFL teams. I have seen some of that stuff advertised this year and the ads always claim it to be bigger than the regular Nautilus version. Whether it is or not, you would probably have to call the Nautilus company to find out.

I have included a link below for a Clemson Football Team SuperPullover that sold earlier this year:

http://www.govdeals.com/...FTOKEN=22389269
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Lud

Several interesting points I thought I would reply to. To the best of my knowledge, the Next Gen were not made in two sizes, but due to the issues I (boyfriend in law) was having, I thought I would ask some of the more knowledgeable fellas.

I trained folks for several years in the early and mid 80's on exclusively first and early gen machines and my recollections were of larger machines, I and many of my trainees were much larger than I am now.

I know he is a big kid and certainly he fills doorways, much less exercise machines, but again, my frame of reference was a line of machines that seemed larger.

What about weight stack....this machine has a 250# stack?

I also see where Full Circle Padding carries a very extensive line of replacement pads for Nautilus and other equipment. Under Next Gen they only list one Super Pullover, but state that some had back pads with 4 bolts and others with 2....different size machine? I don't know.

It does work great for me...maybe a bit tight in the shoulders as I work it...but I am still fiddling with seat position, etc.


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WesH

My Super Pullover I is a couple of inches wider than my Super Pullover III, so it's not your imagination.
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