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entsminger

Virginia, USA

I'm courious as to who you all might regard as the Arthur Jones type thinkers of today. Obviously there's Ellington Darden who we all respect.Brian Johnston. What other great minds in the field of building muscle are out there today on the level of a Jones or a Darden worth reading or listening to?

Scott
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Lioncourt

I think Dante the creator of Doggcrapp always raises lots of good points about training and keeping it real in the weight room.
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marcrph

Portugal

Nobody is like Jones!
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AShortt

Ontario, CAN

Absolutely no offense intended towards anyone in the industry but Jones was a pioneer. He took massive risks and put in massive amounts of time and effort to bring us what he did. He was a man among men and one of a kind. He did not play it safe or even totally sensible in some respects but living out on the edge brought us incredible gifts.

Regards,
Andrew
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TBoneMitch

Quebec, CAN

I concur, Jones has no equals, bar none.

Not even anybody in his league, especially not among the current crop of 'experts'!
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

TBoneMitch wrote:
I concur, Jones has no equals, bar none.

Not even anybody in his league, especially not among the current crop of 'experts'!


==Scott==
I sort of concur with what you say that there is no equal to Jones. I guess I was just hoping that since I've read just about everthing Jones wrote that I can get my hands on I'd like to read something of equal merit from someone else. Maybe that's not possible?
Maybe I should restate my case. Who out there now has something to say about muscle building worth reading? Who's the current eminant philospher of Muscle building? Who has taken what Jones said and added to it with more good ideas and corrections as Darden has done?
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Waynes

Switzerland

Best not.

But he is far more advanced and knowledgeable than anyone, most including Arthur have not got out of one dimension, and not even stated to think there is 6 sides to a box, let alone think outside the box. I mean some do not even understand force, peak force, power and muscle fibers, ho best not start and spoil this thread.

Wayne
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Waynes

Switzerland

entsminger wrote:
TBoneMitch wrote:
I concur, Jones has no equals, bar none.

Not even anybody in his league, especially not among the current crop of 'experts'!

==Scott==
I sort of concur with what you say that there is no equal to Jones. I guess I was just hoping that since I've read just about everthing Jones wrote that I can get my hands on I'd like to read something of equal merit from someone else. Maybe that's not possible?
Maybe I should restate my case. Who out there now has something to say about muscle building worth reading? Who's the current eminant philospher of Muscle building? Who has taken what Jones said and added to it with more good ideas and corrections as Darden has done?



Ok there are a few HIT fans on this site ROL, so could you all list what he did for training, and why you think it was good, let us see if we can get the list up to a 100 ??? Ok 3 ok ???

Wayne
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physcult

Louie Simmons is outspoken and individual- but not commercial on the scale of Jones - its just that people here may not like what he says.
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Michael Petrella

Ontario, CAN

The work of Brian Johnston is the best I have seen. Alot of his knowledge is coming from well documented case studies. Plus he has a very good physique to back it all up.
You will be hard pressed to find a volume of work as vast and as good as Brians.

Michael
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st3

Waynes wrote:
Best not.

But he is far more advanced and knowledgeable than anyone, most including Arthur have not got out of one dimension, and not even stated to think there is 6 sides to a box, let alone think outside the box. I mean some do not even understand force, peak force, power and muscle fibers, ho best not start and spoil this thread.

Wayne


Waiting for Landau to reply in 5,4,3,2,1....
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AceHIT

entsminger wrote:
I'm courious as to who you all might regard as the Arthur Jones type thinkers of today. Obviously there's Ellington Darden who we all respect.Brian Johnston. What other great minds in the field of building muscle are out there today on the level of a Jones or a Darden worth reading or listening to?

Scott


Wayne, Jeff Pinter, Natty- all great minds on the level of Jones.

You mock badly lets all be frends fiendly leg-pulling, Hehaho!
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howard1976

I just love looking at the seminars on cyber pump of arthur jones! He is one great talker! Gets me fired up to workout just listening to the MAN!

Anyone no where i can get a tape of the full seminars that are on cyber pump?

Which there were more of mike mentzer as well, than just the ONE!

But i agree, no one compares with jones, he was a one off special!!
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southbeach

AceHIT wrote:
entsminger wrote:
I'm courious as to who you all might regard as the Arthur Jones type thinkers of today. Obviously there's Ellington Darden who we all respect.Brian Johnston. What other great minds in the field of building muscle are out there today on the level of a Jones or a Darden worth reading or listening to?

Scott

Wayne, Jeff Pinter, Natty- all great minds on the level of Jones.

You mock badly lets all be frends fiendly leg-pulling, Hehaho!


Of course you jest! ;)
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sgb2112

Top HIT

1. Mentzer

2. Jones

3. Dante Trudel

4. Darden

5. BDJ


Top Volume

1. Joe Weider

2. Poliquin

3. Dr. Hatfield

4. Arnold

5. Bio Force
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Landau

Florida, USA

"I've shot 630 elephants and 63 men, and I regret the elephants more," Now that's a Genius!
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Acerimmer1

Landau wrote:
"I've shot 630 elephants and 63 men, and I regret the elephants more," Now that's a Genius!


No thats simple logic. He shot 10 times as many elephants.
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Landau

Florida, USA

Waynes wrote:
Best not.

But he is far more advanced and knowledgeable than anyone, most including Arthur have not got out of one dimension, and not even stated to think there is 6 sides to a box, let alone think outside the box. I mean some do not even understand force, peak force, power and muscle fibers, ho best not start and spoil this thread.

Wayne


You are UNQUALIFIED to speak about anyone - Where are the men in the white coats when you need them?

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Acerimmer1

Lots of people think like Jones, many who post here. But this Jones like thinking happens after they read literature containing his ideas.
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Landau

Florida, USA

No, it's DNA
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oldwarhorse

I spoke to Arthur Jones on the phone a few times in 1971 when I bought machines from him.Obviously one Nautilus Pullover Machine and Combination Biceps/Triceps would tell you how far Arthur was and will always be ahead of the pack. No one like him before or after.I will never do a workout without using the Pullover.I have two Medx Selectorized Leg Press Machines.As the sight says"oh!what a Leg Press Machine!!"Talking about great articles by Arthur Jones does anyone have the July /1970 issue of Muscular Development with Arthur's Forearm article.I would like a reprint or photocopy.
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BennyAnthonyOfKC

Missouri, USA


TOP ANTI-HIT:


(1) THEY ARE IN A CLASS OF THEIR OWN, WHICH NONE MAKE THE LIST, OTHER THAN FOR THEIR STUPIDITY, AND ABILITY TO LIE AND SWINDLE AND CHEAT AND....!!!


TOP HIT & QUASI-HIT:


(1) Arthur Jones
(2) Ellington Darden
(3) Ken Hutchins
(4) Brian D. Johnston
(5) Dr. McGuff


*With the exception of Arthur Jones, I aphabetized the last four names, as I would be hard-pressed to say which one was better for the reason that each one of them expanded on Jones in ways that are different from one another. Also, I know that McGuff credits Mentzer, but I do not, as he I think that he might have inspired many (and brought some to Ayn Rand) to train Jonesian; however, I just do not see that he was very innovative.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

AceHIT wrote:
entsminger wrote:
I'm courious as to who you all might regard as the Arthur Jones type thinkers of today. Obviously there's Ellington Darden who we all respect.Brian Johnston. What other great minds in the field of building muscle are out there today on the level of a Jones or a Darden worth reading or listening to?

Scott

Wayne, Jeff Pinter, Natty- all great minds on the level of Jones.

You mock badly lets all be frends fiendly leg-pulling, Hehaho!


==Scott==
Let us not forget Southbeach......ha ha..
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Waynes

Switzerland

Waynes wrote:
entsminger wrote:
TBoneMitch wrote:
I concur, Jones has no equals, bar none.

Not even anybody in his league, especially not among the current crop of 'experts'!

==Scott==
I sort of concur with what you say that there is no equal to Jones. I guess I was just hoping that since I've read just about everthing Jones wrote that I can get my hands on I'd like to read something of equal merit from someone else. Maybe that's not possible?
Maybe I should restate my case. Who out there now has something to say about muscle building worth reading? Who's the current eminant philospher of Muscle building? Who has taken what Jones said and added to it with more good ideas and corrections as Darden has done?


Ok there are a few HIT fans on this site ROL, so could you all list what he did for training, and why you think it was good, let us see if we can get the list up to a 100 ??? Ok 3 ok ???

Wayne


So in 24 hours one can name 1 or 20 things he did for training ???

I repeat,

So could you all list what he did for training, and why you think it was good, let us see if we can get the list up to a 100 ??? Ok 20 ok ???

And please do not say he made 100,000 go to the gym, as hes very unknown outside of the USA, but 100,000s still go to the gym.

Wayne
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AShortt

Ontario, CAN

Jones realized that the sensible way to go was to train briefly, infrequently and as hard as you bloody well could and then some. He provided us with a plethora of revolutionary tools to help in the endeavour.

Was/is it all perfect? Useless question. His realizations and inventions are so valuable we should be embracing them and protecting them with both arms.

Regards,
Andrew
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