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Tony Williams

smanjh wrote:
Joshua Trentine wrote:
Landau wrote:
I skimmed the article, but it contains the same idiocies in fitness buzz words - "metabolic boosting" rapid motions duh der good for sports? - Fat Burning and of course aerobic - typical DUM DUM DUMMY fitness Junk - Bull Shit


Ya, i know!

supports LESS than nothing.

trends of these type of links followed by personal attacks. This forum is not a place to discuss anything progressive or technical.

That is why I am discussing this with him.

The article he brought to light was a hit job based off of like one recommendation. You have never said anything like what this article talks about, and you do a great job of correcting misconceptions like this.

Tony is that old guy reading the newspaper during is flies, he is 'getting back into it'. Meanwhile he is embarrassing himself with this nonsense for the plethora of reasons I explained throughout his threads.


Do you mean flyes?

Flies are insects.

Haven't done flyes in years.

All compound now.

What article are you referring to?

Regards,

Tony

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smanjh

Tony Williams wrote:
smanjh wrote:
Now then, let's review something here: Josh offended you in a PM, and you are out for blood. Once again, I admire the tendency.

I was a douche bag the very night you got those PM's, and guess what, I got some from Josh too. He was very respectful to me, wayyy more than I deserved that night. I don't know what he said to you. I would like to think this is all way too much blown out of context by both of you maybe understanding the context of written conversations (most do).

Josh could make great money probably doing anything else but SS or attaching himself to HIT in general. Do you know how much one could make locally if one just rearranged a Weider mag routine and sold it as the holy grail? When it doesn't work, point to your juiced up clients, and when it does make sure everyone understands the different discipline levels involved. (Mentzer had character too. Notice when even Viator sold out and allowed his 'routines' to be published, Mentzer was trying to get his own mag together and refusing to sell out his principles)

Once again, I wish you would be more understanding and possibly able to take a second look at things, even if the issue becomes personal.

I don't think you were a douche bag, but if you think so ... well ... quit douching so often.

Regards,
Tony


Hehe... very funny:)
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Jtatore

Josh .... they will never understand unless they workout on the machines with someone who knows the right way to instruct them on the machines ... only then will they truly appreciate the protocol. Ken's big five machines ... Leg press - compound row - chest press - shoulder press - pulldown ... are by themselves enough for total muscle development ... so good!!!!!!!!!!

John
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Joshua Trentine

Ohio, USA

Jtatore wrote:
Josh .... they will never understand unless they workout on the machines with someone who knows the right way to instruct them on the machines ... only then will they truly appreciate the protocol. Ken's big five machines ... Leg press - compound row - chest press - shoulder press - pulldown ... are by themselves enough for total muscle development ... so good!!!!!!!!!!

John



I agree, even if someone didn't have the complete intellectual grasp a few workouts with the right gear and instruction would solve any misunderstanding. It's a shame how few people have been exposed to this and how many that were just glossed over it without seeing the protocol through to it's potential. i will admit it takes a great physical and mental effort to get the most from this training, it's not for the attention impaired.

Funny thing is....those 5 machines done properly will be far more than many people can tolerate. I've said this many times but if you want to see the best result from recommendations from Mentzer or similar recommendations from McGuff with regard to frequency and volume, this is the only way such brief and abbreviated training holds true. To a great extent because one can not get enough accumulative work or metabolic effect from just one set of conventional exercise under "ordinary" circumstances.

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summaHIT

Ontario, CAN

Joshua Trentine wrote:
Jtatore wrote:
Josh .... they will never understand unless they workout on the machines with someone who knows the right way to instruct them on the machines ... only then will they truly appreciate the protocol. Ken's big five machines ... Leg press - compound row - chest press - shoulder press - pulldown ... are by themselves enough for total muscle development ... so good!!!!!!!!!!

John


I agree, even if someone didn't have the complete intellectual grasp a few workouts with the right gear and instruction would solve any misunderstanding. It's a shame how few people have been exposed to this and how many that were just glossed over it without seeing the protocol through to it's potential. i will admit it takes a great physical and mental effort to get the most from this training, it's not for the attention impaired.

Funny thing is....those 5 machines done properly will be far more than many people can tolerate. I've said this many times but if you want to see the best result from recommendations from Mentzer or similar recommendations from McGuff with regard to frequency and volume, this is the only way such brief and abbreviated training holds true. To a great extent because one can not get enough accumulative work or metabolic effect from just one set of conventional exercise under "ordinary" circumstances.



Hi,
I fail to understand anything about the actual workouts, the equipement, or the set and rep performance of this protocol.
Is it like doing a max effort rep each rep for a certain amount of reps like forced reps?
Can you expand a little please.
Thanks in advance.
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Ciccio

Joshua Trentine wrote:
..., this is the only way such brief and abbreviated training holds true.



I do not agree with that. There are other ways.


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iflyboats

SuperSlow has made an awesome difference in my life and I don't give the slightest shit what any dickhead pseudointellectuals in academia think.
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Travis Weigand

iflyboats wrote:
SuperSlow has made an awesome difference in my life and I don't give the slightest shit what any dickhead pseudointellectuals in academia think.


AGREED.
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db144

Someone (preferably Joshua) please post the basic concept and execution of SuperSlow. I've seen several variations and not sure which is correct and that just left me confused.

Thanks,

d
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Joshua Trentine wrote:
Jtatore wrote:
Josh .... they will never understand unless they workout on the machines with someone who knows the right way to instruct them on the machines ... only then will they truly appreciate the protocol. Ken's big five machines ... Leg press - compound row - chest press - shoulder press - pulldown ... are by themselves enough for total muscle development ... so good!!!!!!!!!!

John


I agree, even if someone didn't have the complete intellectual grasp a few workouts with the right gear and instruction would solve any misunderstanding. It's a shame how few people have been exposed to this and how many that were just glossed over it without seeing the protocol through to it's potential. i will admit it takes a great physical and mental effort to get the most from this training, it's not for the attention impaired.

Funny thing is....those 5 machines done properly will be far more than many people can tolerate. I've said this many times but if you want to see the best result from recommendations from Mentzer or similar recommendations from McGuff with regard to frequency and volume, this is the only way such brief and abbreviated training holds true. To a great extent because one can not get enough accumulative work or metabolic effect from just one set of conventional exercise under "ordinary" circumstances.



==Scott==
We are trying to be patient and wait for you to show us the way but I have to wonder how you seem to have time to keep responding to many threads on here like this one but not enough time to show us how to do it properly like you said you might?? We are eager top learn ! Please help us !
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Jtatore

Josh

Do you follow the 10 second "Thorough inroading" technique at the end of each set?

Thanks
John
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db144

Maybe SuperSlow can on be done when supervised by a paid trainer? Isn't that interesting (built in business for trainers).

From the studies I've reviewed (or at least as many as I can find) it isn't the "secret" training method better than all others. If it works for someone good but other training methods are just as effective. I would still like to hear a proper explanation but I guess I'll have to purchase the book or hire a trainer to get a straight answer. The only information I'm getting in this thread is blind devotion without explanation and that "most" can't handle the workout due to a lack of "concentration" or because of its tedious nature.

d
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Joshua Trentine

Ohio, USA

I am returning to the U.S. Monday, i promised videos and detailed explanations. I have 8 questions on the other SuperSlow thread and at least 10 PM's, i promise i will get to.

I'm going to need at least a week to collect some good videos of some things i want to demonstrate and some things that relate to the questions.

JOSHUA
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db144

Good, thanks Josh.

d
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Joshua Trentine

Ohio, USA

Jtatore wrote:
Josh

Do you follow the 10 second "Thorough inroading" technique at the end of each set?

Thanks
John



yes sir, 10 seconds working away after there is no further positive excursion and another 10 seconds or whatever is possible with what's left of the negative.

as much as 20 seconds of additional work at the key point of stimulus.
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Jtatore

Josh ... with the additional 10 to 20 seconds what are your total Time Under Load (average)?
Thanks
John
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