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Bullen-Whatling

Hey guys,

It's not about me don't worry!
But I live with my female cousin and she has awful eating habits, like today, she hasn't eaten a thing, NOTHING.

She will go today without eating anything, then will eat some cruddy food like a pot noodle and some other crap tomorrow. It won't even be much, like a tub of pre-made pasta from a supermarket.

She won't cook, because she says she's afraid to burn the house down. :| I have shown her numerous times how to cook, even simple things like pasta.... LOL

However I was just wondering, what the long term or even short term (next 5-10 years) effects would be, so I can scare her into eating properly!

She will eat more food when she is home with her parents but that's because her father cooks (Probably goes home once or twice a week).

Cheers,

Rob

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fbcoach

Malnutrition, vitamin deficiencies, etc.............
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Jym1985

swede360 wrote:
Hey guys,

It's not about me don't worry!
But I live with my female cousin and she has awful eating habits, like today, she hasn't eaten a thing, NOTHING.

She will go today without eating anything, then will eat some cruddy food like a pot noodle and some other crap tomorrow. It won't even be much, like a tub of pre-made pasta from a supermarket.

She won't cook, because she says she's afraid to burn the house down. :| I have shown her numerous times how to cook, even simple things like pasta.... LOL

However I was just wondering, what the long term or even short term (next 5-10 years) effects would be, so I can scare her into eating properly!

She will eat more food when she is home with her parents but that's because her father cooks (Probably goes home once or twice a week).

Cheers,

Rob



Your best bet for some good info is to google "malnutrition".

Why don't you cook for her?
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Bullen-Whatling

She wouldn't want to pay half for the food. Otherwise I would.

Yeah she's not even skinny, but slim. I don't get out she can even function really, I feel ill easily without food.


Cheers,

Rob
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theTummy

Michigan, USA

I've heard (no citation) that not eating enough will actually trigger your body to gain fat. It is a stress trigger, an evolutionary response to starvation, i.e. less food will make you hold onto everything and store it as fat to protect the body.

If I were at home I'd do some digging, but alas I am not...
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krazy kaju

IIRC, studies have shown that caloric restriction promotes longevity. The problem is that many people who don't eat much don't eat nutritious food when they eat - like your cousin who only eat some crappy pre-made food when she does eat. So if you limit your caloric intake and make sure all of the food you eat is very nutritious. In another thread, honey and spinach are brought up as two nutritious foods. Lean cuts of meat is probably another good choice for filling protein requirements. You get the point.
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Tony Williams

theTummy wrote:
I've heard (no citation) that not eating enough will actually trigger your body to gain fat. It is a stress trigger, an evolutionary response to starvation, i.e. less food will make you hold onto everything and store it as fat to protect the body.

If I were at home I'd do some digging, but alas I am not...


As Tummy states, when you cut calories drastically you often experience the paradoxical effect of gaining weight or fat because your metabolism slows drastically when you do not eat.

Do you think she has an eating disorder of any sort? Is she abnormally preoccupied with her body and staying slim?

A woman in my neighborhood speed or powerwalks or rides a bicycle for hours to lose weight, which in reality she does not need to lose.

Several times, I have seen her riding the bike at 3 a.m.

Many bodybuilders, I believe, suffer from body dysmorphia like many women but in reverse. They look in the mirror and always feel they are too small although to others they are huge.

Women with an eating disorder most often believe they are too big even when they are, for example, under 100 pounds at 5' 7".

http://www.mayoclinic.com/...isorder/DS00559

Tony
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dhitquinn

Tony Williams wrote:
theTummy wrote:
I've heard (no citation) that not eating enough will actually trigger your body to gain fat. It is a stress trigger, an evolutionary response to starvation, i.e. less food will make you hold onto everything and store it as fat to protect the body.

If I were at home I'd do some digging, but alas I am not...

As Tummy states, when you cut calories drastically you often experience the paradoxical effect of gaining weight or fat because your metabolism slows drastically when you do not eat.

Do you think she has an eating disorder of any sort? Is she abnormally preoccupied with her body and staying slim?

A woman in my neighborhood speed or powerwalks or rides a bicycle for hours to lose weight, which in reality she does not need to lose.

Several times, I have seen her riding the bike at 3 a.m.

Many bodybuilders, I believe, suffer from body dysmorphia like many women but in reverse. They look in the mirror and always feel they are too small although to others they are huge.

Women with an eating disorder most often believe they are too big even when they are, for example, under 100 pounds at 5' 7".

http://www.mayoclinic.com/...isorder/DS00559

Tony


Its also funny that it is always slim women who put in the most effort to lose weight when they dont need to, but grossly obese women do a lot less, i dont know maybe its because its easier to exercise if you are slim already.

I agree with you on the bodybuilding for men front most think they are too slim when they look into a mirror, some of us will never be satisfied, im one of them i guess
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Bullen-Whatling

Tony, I wouldn't be surprised if she had an eating disorder, as her sister has bulimia. They both have pretty negative body images, she's always asking, do I look fat? OMG I have a "pee" belly, where her bladder is fuller, she can see it.. It's annoying as hell LOL.

I told her today, she probably has an eating disorder - to which she said "Nah, I don't think so, I eat quite a lot." So I said - "You haven't eaten today or yesterday."

She said "Oh."

She then proceeded to brush it off, saying "I don't plan to live long, live fast die young."

I gave up at that point....

I despair.....

Cheers guys anyway..

Rob

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dhitquinn

swede360 wrote:
Tony, I wouldn't be surprised if she had an eating disorder, as her sister has bulimia. They both have pretty negative body images, she's always asking, do I look fat? OMG I have a "pee" belly, where her bladder is fuller, she can see it.. It's annoying as hell LOL.

I told her today, she probably has an eating disorder - to which she said "Nah, I don't think so, I eat quite a lot." So I said - "You haven't eaten today or yesterday."

She said "Oh."

She then proceeded to brush it off, saying "I don't plan to live long, live fast die young."

I gave up at that point....

I despair.....

Cheers guys anyway..

Rob



Its sad when things like that happen, body dysmorphia can cripple a person and last an entire lifetime if things are not addressed.

Id bet a number of us guys here have it or have it to a degree as well, im personally never satisfied with my physique/appearance as well, im also constantly comparing myself with others and get very pissed off if i see someone who has muscles better developed than mine especially if they dont even train, it can get to the stage where concentrating on other things becomes impossible! anyone else here feel like that?
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HeavyHitter32

I have never met a woman - slim or heavy - that ate properly.
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krazy kaju

swede360 wrote:
I told her today, she probably has an eating disorder - to which she said "Nah, I don't think so, I eat quite a lot." So I said - "You haven't eaten today or yesterday."

She said "Oh."


No offense to your family, but that's just disgusting. She's probably too skinny.

My girlfriend is one of those people who eats very infrequently and I'm constantly harping on her to eat healthier, but she eats at least once a day - and she's very, very skinny. I like skinny/petite girls, but she's as skinny as I'd go. Any skinnier and she'd become unattractive, ya know?

ddhitquinn wrote:
Its sad when things like that happen, body dysmorphia can cripple a person and last an entire lifetime if things are not addressed.

Id bet a number of us guys here have it or have it to a degree as well, im personally never satisfied with my physique/appearance as well, im also constantly comparing myself with others and get very pissed off if i see someone who has muscles better developed than mine especially if they dont even train, it can get to the stage where concentrating on other things becomes impossible! anyone else here feel like that?


I've thought about this at length, because I think I might have some kind of body dysmorphia. I look in the mirror and I see someone who has too much fat and not enough muscle. But everyone else I know, including my workout partners (who I think are waaay bigger than I am), seem to think otherwise.

Ever since I picked up bodybuilding/strength training, my girlfriends have always said that I'm "almost too big." My current girlfriend is trying to convince me to stop focusing on gaining more muscle, because she thinks I'll get too big. lol. But then again I always date skinny/petite chicks who usually date skinny guys (like I was before I started BBing), so maybe that's why they say things like that?

The way I see it, I couldn't possibly get too big. I have more of the "swimmer" or ectomorphic body type. I'm a taller/skinnier kind of person. I'm pretty happy with it though, because when I reach my maximum genetic potential for muscle mass, I think I'll be pretty close to the "Grecian ideal" physique just because I'm naturally built like that.

I don't see any problem with my bodybuilding endeavor, as long as I stay drug free. The way I see it, it'll make me healthier. Better insulin sensitivity, more energy throughout the day, lower chance of getting injured, better self-confidence, etc. These are all positive things for our health that come with gaining muscle mass. And there's more benefits that come with the healthy diet a bodybuilder should eat.

This is in opposition to all of these anorexic chicks who never eat and when they do eat they eat crap. No wonder they feel like crap - I would too if all I ate were two slices of pizza a day.

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
I have never met a woman - slim or heavy - that ate properly.


Me either.
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Tony Williams

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
I have never met a woman - slim or heavy - that ate properly.


Come to think of it ... neither have I.

Tony

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Bullen-Whatling

Krazy Kaju, she isn't skinny, she's slim. I don't know how to illustrate it without a picture, but she isn't skinny.
You'll have to take my word for it lol.


Quinn, I agree, my other cousin is doing a Sports Science degree and studies nutrition as part of that, and still eats crap - drinking lots of red bull and eating little quality food!


Cheers,

Rob
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kurtvf

swede360 wrote:

She won't cook, because she says she's afraid to burn the house down. :|


One word: microwave. But keep in mind that you can burn down a house with a microwave, but you really gotta try....

Actually, there are those who believe that cooking food basically destroys it....

Seriously, if she is not skinny or losing weight she is consuming enough calories. Vitamin pills can take care of the rest of her needs.
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Tony Williams

From the Mayo Clinic staff:

"Body dysmorphic disorder is a type of chronic mental illness in which you can't stop thinking about a flaw with your appearance -- a flaw that is either minor or imagined. But to you, your appearance seems so shameful that you don't want to be seen by anyone. Body dysmorphic disorder has sometimes been called "imagined ugliness."

"When you have body dysmorphic disorder, you intensely obsess over your appearance and body image, often for many hours a day. You may seek out numerous cosmetic procedures to try to "fix" your perceived flaws, but never will be satisfied. Body dysmorphic disorder is also known as dysmorphophobia, the fear of having a deformity.

"Treatment of body dysmorphic disorder may include medication and cognitive behavioral therapy."

One example of body dysmophia apart from those bodybuilding or with an eating disorder might be someone who believes his or her nose is too large.

To others, the nose looks fine even perfect. Most plastic surgeons would not operate on the nose because there is nothing to fix.

That person obsesses over his "deformed" nose and examine it in a mirror for hours.

It is a mental disorder. I believe it becomes a problem when it disrupts everyday living.

Tony
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Tony Williams

kurtvf wrote:
swede360 wrote:

She won't cook, because she says she's afraid to burn the house down. :|


One word: microwave. But keep in mind that you can burn down a house with a microwave, but you really gotta try....

Actually, there are those who believe that cooking food basically destroys it....

Seriously, if she is not skinny or losing weight she is consuming enough calories. Vitamin pills can take care of the rest of her needs.


If you mean to set the microwave for two minutes and instead set it for 20 minutes, you can come close to burning the house down ... as I almost did years ago. :)

Tony

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southbeach

Most people are malnoursihed and overfed.

enuf said :|
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

southbeach wrote:
Most people are malnoursihed and overfed.

enuf said :|


==Scott==
Broken record, broken record, broken record,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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krazy kaju

southbeach wrote:
Most people are malnoursihed and overfed.

enuf said :|


You're malnourished and underfed. :|
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pyro13g

Ohio, USA

Well, she has some kind of mental health issue if a she fears she will burn down the house by cooking. Maybe just an excuse for her eating disorder.

Start offering food to her when you cook and don't make her pay for the food. She turns it down all the time, or disappears after eating it, I'd bet eating disorder of some kind.

She's gonna have osteoporosis later in life if she don't change her ways.
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pyro13g

Ohio, USA

southbeach wrote:
Most people are malnoursihed and overfed.

enuf said :|


Oh so very true!

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southbeach

krazy kaju wrote:
southbeach wrote:
Most people are malnoursihed and overfed.

enuf said :|

You're malnourished and underfed. :|


your a misguided protein junkie! you rate every food by its protein content regardless of what other harmful ingrediants it may contain (saturated fat) or lack of nutritional denisty (vitamins/minerals/phytochems)

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krazy kaju

southbeach wrote:
krazy kaju wrote:
southbeach wrote:
Most people are malnoursihed and overfed.

enuf said :|

You're malnourished and underfed. :|

your a misguided protein junkie! you rate every food by its protein content regardless of what other harmful ingrediants it may contain (saturated fat) or lack of nutritional denisty (vitamins/minerals/phytochems)


As usual, you're ignorant of the facts. I eat plenty of dark-green vegetables, mainly spinach.
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Acerimmer1

I'd be careful about recommending a caloric increase to somebody maintaining a healthy and stable weight (if that is indeed the case) that is not a bodybuilder. I can only see one outcome and it's fat gain, or at best a combination of fat and unwanted muscle gain.
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