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st3

Here's a couple of videos of my clients:

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=BtL3iFq7bWk

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=vmeQCZqH4EM

Fun stuff!

Steve
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Turpin

Enjoyed watching those , nicely narrated too.

T.
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Just

Florida, USA

Thanks Steve,

Jim
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Paul Marsland

I second T's comments, good job Steve, especially the demonsration of the correct application of Jreps..

Paul.
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Just

Florida, USA

Thanks Steve,

Jim
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lildrummerboy80

st3 wrote:
Here's a couple of videos of my clients:

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=BtL3iFq7bWk

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=vmeQCZqH4EM

Fun stuff!

Steve


I truly wish that there was a way High Intensity training worked, I really do. I have followed mentzer, darden, yates, reinhardt, vaitor, books and books, i have pushed beyond failure using full body training, using4/2/4 movements, I have used pre-exhaust. I have trained more explosive and heavy like Yates, i tried high protein, high carb and anything between, bottom line is, the 1st trainee is fat, the 2nd is scrawny as hell, there are NO natural body builders who have a decent physique as a direct result of H.I.T. training and almost all scientific studies show that multi sets are better than single sets, just the facts i have researched this for years. With a couple rare examples (the boise experiment) there is ZERO case for hit training, and these videos are just more evidence that a late night infomertial program, p90x, could produce 100x better results, and the program is based on volume, push pull, superset workouts. The proof is there, google it.
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TOM C

Steve,

Good looking videos!

Nice gym, too.
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Joshua Trentine

Ohio, USA

lildrummerboy80 wrote:
st3 wrote:
Here's a couple of videos of my clients:

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=BtL3iFq7bWk

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=vmeQCZqH4EM

Fun stuff!

Steve

I truly wish that there was a way High Intensity training worked, I really do. I have followed mentzer, darden, yates, reinhardt, vaitor, books and books, i have pushed beyond failure using full body training, using4/2/4 movements, I have used pre-exhaust. I have trained more explosive and heavy like Yates, i tried high protein, high carb and anything between, bottom line is, the 1st trainee is fat, the 2nd is scrawny as hell, there are NO natural body builders who have a decent physique as a direct result of H.I.T. training and almost all scientific studies show that multi sets are better than single sets, just the facts i have researched this for years. With a couple rare examples (the boise experiment) there is ZERO case for hit training, and these videos are just more evidence that a late night infomertial program, p90x, could produce 100x better results, and the program is based on volume, push pull, superset workouts. The proof is there, google it.



You sure about this lil drummer boy?

LOOK CLOSER.

Google me, look at turpin....do something before you buy into the muscle confusion principle, yoga day ain't gonna save ya

i hate that "i tried that already mentality"
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theTummy

Michigan, USA

lildrummerboy80 wrote:
st3 wrote:
Here's a couple of videos of my clients:

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=BtL3iFq7bWk

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=vmeQCZqH4EM

Fun stuff!

Steve

I truly wish that there was a way High Intensity training worked, I really do. I have followed mentzer, darden, yates, reinhardt, vaitor, books and books, i have pushed beyond failure using full body training, using4/2/4 movements, I have used pre-exhaust. I have trained more explosive and heavy like Yates, i tried high protein, high carb and anything between, bottom line is, the 1st trainee is fat, the 2nd is scrawny as hell, there are NO natural body builders who have a decent physique as a direct result of H.I.T. training and almost all scientific studies show that multi sets are better than single sets, just the facts i have researched this for years. With a couple rare examples (the boise experiment) there is ZERO case for hit training, and these videos are just more evidence that a late night infomertial program, p90x, could produce 100x better results, and the program is based on volume, push pull, superset workouts. The proof is there, google it.


I've done P90X and never came close to building as much muscle as I have with HIT (in less time). It takes a different kind if discipline than the hour and a half a day of that program. Not to mention the strength difference.
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Landau

Florida, USA

P90X - see The Return to the Primitive Part 2 at www.exercisefraud.com - This shows why the Pathetic Mentality of the "fitness" industry is lower than whale shit at the bottom of the ocean.
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st3

Hey Gang,
These videos were posted and to show what the "real world" of personal training is like.

Yes, the smaller guy could be called "scrawny" although I personally choose to heap praise on him for his accomplishments.

Let me give you a little background. He has 4 kids, he lost his wife about 4 years ago. So he's raising these kids alone.

He's sees me twice per week. Each session is 15-20 minutes, he loves the sessions. Great stress relief and great time to disconnect and destress.

We put together an eating plan for him to lose weight and live in "his world". I poo pooed all the normal diet plans and decided it would be best for him to eat whatever was put in front of him or whatever he made for his family but to simply "eat less food".

He eats 2 meals per day, he's lost 25-30 pounds, his blood profiles are great, he suffers from possible early MS but is as mentally tough as anyone I know. He has some low back issues hence the lack of depth in the leg press. His strength training has alleviated most of the pain. He feels great and enjoys his life!

So px90 for this guy? 5 days per week an hour at a time? With back problems 4 kids and 56 years old. I'll stick with what works. HIT!

The other guy is overweight. He was just cleared from his Dr. after some heart issues. He used to be a high level sthlete years ago. Golden gloves boxer.

He's most likely not going to diet. I'm trying to motivate him but he's probably just going to lift. He works hard in the gym. Might be the best I get out of him. I want better for him but I'm ok with his personal choices. I do my job and love it.

That, my friends, is the real world! The late night infomercial models are few and far between. If px90 or hvt works for you, then do it, enjoy it. I'm HIT! I love watching Landau train people, love to read Joshua Trentine's stuff, look forward to any Darden posts or new books, McGuff and Little rule. These guys are in the trenches doing it! This is fun stuff!

One more thing. HIT works! I have several world champion Jiu Jitsu players that I train. I have an UFC fighter that I train. I've trained 5 first place bodybuilders, frug free using HIT principles.

And that's the bottom line!
Steve
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lildrummerboy80

Joshua Trentine wrote:
lildrummerboy80 wrote:
st3 wrote:
Here's a couple of videos of my clients:

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=BtL3iFq7bWk

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=vmeQCZqH4EM

Fun stuff!

Steve

I truly wish that there was a way High Intensity training worked, I really do. I have followed mentzer, darden, yates, reinhardt, vaitor, books and books, i have pushed beyond failure using full body training, using4/2/4 movements, I have used pre-exhaust. I have trained more explosive and heavy like Yates, i tried high protein, high carb and anything between, bottom line is, the 1st trainee is fat, the 2nd is scrawny as hell, there are NO natural body builders who have a decent physique as a direct result of H.I.T. training and almost all scientific studies show that multi sets are better than single sets, just the facts i have researched this for years. With a couple rare examples (the boise experiment) there is ZERO case for hit training, and these videos are just more evidence that a late night infomertial program, p90x, could produce 100x better results, and the program is based on volume, push pull, superset workouts. The proof is there, google it.


You sure about this lil drummer boy?

LOOK CLOSER.

Google me, look at turpin....do something before you buy into the muscle confusion principle, yoga day ain't gonna save ya

i hate that "i tried that already mentality"


P90x is just an example, not what i'd call the best program either, however when i was getting my feet wet in exercise, i ordered it and went from 190 lbs 25% body fat, to 168 at 7.5%, nothing else has produced results like this and i've been tring other programs since i completed it back in 2006. For the record i skipped the yoga. but the muscle building is all based on high volume explosive movements, I don't need to go onto a web site discrediting it, because the thousands of success videos on youtube alone prove that it works, the same can not be said for high intensity training, it just cant. I've never even attempted volume training since completing p90x, because i was turned on to the new hit book, and really loved the idea, and the book itself. I have 3 mike mentzer books, casey viators book (which by the way he writes that volume training overall worked better for him, and he himself today prescribes volume training for his clients) dorian yates book, tried all the different routines, diets. I even changed gyms because the gym I was at only had cybex machines so i went to a gym with nautilus ones. Meanwhile, my buddy, who doesn't know anything about training, buys Joe Weider's ultimate bodybuilding book, and in less than 2 years completely transforms his body from 160 to 190 all natural.
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Raider22

Ohio, USA

lildrummerboy80 wrote:
Joshua Trentine wrote:
lildrummerboy80 wrote:
st3 wrote:
Here's a couple of videos of my clients:

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=BtL3iFq7bWk

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=vmeQCZqH4EM

Fun stuff!

Steve

I truly wish that there was a way High Intensity training worked, I really do. I have followed mentzer, darden, yates, reinhardt, vaitor, books and books, i have pushed beyond failure using full body training, using4/2/4 movements, I have used pre-exhaust. I have trained more explosive and heavy like Yates, i tried high protein, high carb and anything between, bottom line is, the 1st trainee is fat, the 2nd is scrawny as hell, there are NO natural body builders who have a decent physique as a direct result of H.I.T. training and almost all scientific studies show that multi sets are better than single sets, just the facts i have researched this for years. With a couple rare examples (the boise experiment) there is ZERO case for hit training, and these videos are just more evidence that a late night infomertial program, p90x, could produce 100x better results, and the program is based on volume, push pull, superset workouts. The proof is there, google it.


You sure about this lil drummer boy?

LOOK CLOSER.

Google me, look at turpin....do something before you buy into the muscle confusion principle, yoga day ain't gonna save ya

i hate that "i tried that already mentality"

P90x is just an example, not what i'd call the best program either, however when i was getting my feet wet in exercise, i ordered it and went from 190 lbs 25% body fat, to 168 at 7.5%, nothing else has produced results like this and i've been tring other programs since i completed it back in 2006. For the record i skipped the yoga. but the muscle building is all based on high volume explosive movements, I don't need to go onto a web site discrediting it, because the thousands of success videos on youtube alone prove that it works, the same can not be said for high intensity training, it just cant. I've never even attempted volume training since completing p90x, because i was turned on to the new hit book, and really loved the idea, and the book itself. I have 3 mike mentzer books, casey viators book (which by the way he writes that volume training overall worked better for him, and he himself today prescribes volume training for his clients) dorian yates book, tried all the different routines, diets. I even changed gyms because the gym I was at only had cybex machines so i went to a gym with nautilus ones. Meanwhile, my buddy, who doesn't know anything about training, buys Joe Weider's ultimate bodybuilding book, and in less than 2 years completely transforms his body from 160 to 190 all natural.


Did you follow the P90X diet or a calorie restricted diet?

I have talked with some friends that follow the p90X program for the last 6 months. They both have joint pain, especially the elbows. One had very poor results with improving body composition. The second friend did not follow the diet recommendations.

No program makes up for a less than optimal diet.
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H.I.T. Believer

IMPRESSIVE !!! Good job, keep making your contribution steve




st3 wrote:
Hey Gang,
These videos were posted and to show what the "real world" of personal training is like.

Yes, the smaller guy could be called "scrawny" although I personally choose to heap praise on him for his accomplishments.

Let me give you a little background. He has 4 kids, he lost his wife about 4 years ago. So he's raising these kids alone.

He's sees me twice per week. Each session is 15-20 minutes, he loves the sessions. Great stress relief and great time to disconnect and destress.

We put together an eating plan for him to lose weight and live in "his world". I poo pooed all the normal diet plans and decided it would be best for him to eat whatever was put in front of him or whatever he made for his family but to simply "eat less food".

He eats 2 meals per day, he's lost 25-30 pounds, his blood profiles are great, he suffers from possible early MS but is as mentally tough as anyone I know. He has some low back issues hence the lack of depth in the leg press. His strength training has alleviated most of the pain. He feels great and enjoys his life!

So px90 for this guy? 5 days per week an hour at a time? With back problems 4 kids and 56 years old. I'll stick with what works. HIT!

The other guy is overweight. He was just cleared from his Dr. after some heart issues. He used to be a high level sthlete years ago. Golden gloves boxer.

He's most likely not going to diet. I'm trying to motivate him but he's probably just going to lift. He works hard in the gym. Might be the best I get out of him. I want better for him but I'm ok with his personal choices. I do my job and love it.

That, my friends, is the real world! The late night infomercial models are few and far between. If px90 or hvt works for you, then do it, enjoy it. I'm HIT! I love watching Landau train people, love to read Joshua Trentine's stuff, look forward to any Darden posts or new books, McGuff and Little rule. These guys are in the trenches doing it! This is fun stuff!

One more thing. HIT works! I have several world champion Jiu Jitsu players that I train. I have an UFC fighter that I train. I've trained 5 first place bodybuilders, frug free using HIT principles.

And that's the bottom line!
Steve


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Joshua Trentine

Ohio, USA

lildrummerboy80 wrote:
Joshua Trentine wrote:
lildrummerboy80 wrote:
st3 wrote:
Here's a couple of videos of my clients:

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=BtL3iFq7bWk

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=vmeQCZqH4EM

Fun stuff!

Steve

I truly wish that there was a way High Intensity training worked, I really do. I have followed mentzer, darden, yates, reinhardt, vaitor, books and books, i have pushed beyond failure using full body training, using4/2/4 movements, I have used pre-exhaust. I have trained more explosive and heavy like Yates, i tried high protein, high carb and anything between, bottom line is, the 1st trainee is fat, the 2nd is scrawny as hell, there are NO natural body builders who have a decent physique as a direct result of H.I.T. training and almost all scientific studies show that multi sets are better than single sets, just the facts i have researched this for years. With a couple rare examples (the boise experiment) there is ZERO case for hit training, and these videos are just more evidence that a late night infomertial program, p90x, could produce 100x better results, and the program is based on volume, push pull, superset workouts. The proof is there, google it.


You sure about this lil drummer boy?

LOOK CLOSER.

Google me, look at turpin....do something before you buy into the muscle confusion principle, yoga day ain't gonna save ya

i hate that "i tried that already mentality"

P90x is just an example, not what i'd call the best program either, however when i was getting my feet wet in exercise, i ordered it and went from 190 lbs 25% body fat, to 168 at 7.5%, nothing else has produced results like this and i've been tring other programs since i completed it back in 2006. For the record i skipped the yoga. but the muscle building is all based on high volume explosive movements, I don't need to go onto a web site discrediting it, because the thousands of success videos on youtube alone prove that it works, the same can not be said for high intensity training, it just cant. I've never even attempted volume training since completing p90x, because i was turned on to the new hit book, and really loved the idea, and the book itself. I have 3 mike mentzer books, casey viators book (which by the way he writes that volume training overall worked better for him, and he himself today prescribes volume training for his clients) dorian yates book, tried all the different routines, diets. I even changed gyms because the gym I was at only had cybex machines so i went to a gym with nautilus ones. Meanwhile, my buddy, who doesn't know anything about training, buys Joe Weider's ultimate bodybuilding book, and in less than 2 years completely transforms his body from 160 to 190 all natural.



fat loss has little to do with your exercise program.

if you want fat loss results w/ a hit program you better regulate the diet.

simple
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lildrummerboy80

Joshua Trentine wrote:
lildrummerboy80 wrote:
Joshua Trentine wrote:
lildrummerboy80 wrote:
st3 wrote:
Here's a couple of videos of my clients:

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=BtL3iFq7bWk

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=vmeQCZqH4EM

Fun stuff!

Steve

I truly wish that there was a way High Intensity training worked, I really do. I have followed mentzer, darden, yates, reinhardt, vaitor, books and books, i have pushed beyond failure using full body training, using4/2/4 movements, I have used pre-exhaust. I have trained more explosive and heavy like Yates, i tried high protein, high carb and anything between, bottom line is, the 1st trainee is fat, the 2nd is scrawny as hell, there are NO natural body builders who have a decent physique as a direct result of H.I.T. training and almost all scientific studies show that multi sets are better than single sets, just the facts i have researched this for years. With a couple rare examples (the boise experiment) there is ZERO case for hit training, and these videos are just more evidence that a late night infomertial program, p90x, could produce 100x better results, and the program is based on volume, push pull, superset workouts. The proof is there, google it.


You sure about this lil drummer boy?

LOOK CLOSER.

Google me, look at turpin....do something before you buy into the muscle confusion principle, yoga day ain't gonna save ya

i hate that "i tried that already mentality"

P90x is just an example, not what i'd call the best program either, however when i was getting my feet wet in exercise, i ordered it and went from 190 lbs 25% body fat, to 168 at 7.5%, nothing else has produced results like this and i've been tring other programs since i completed it back in 2006. For the record i skipped the yoga. but the muscle building is all based on high volume explosive movements, I don't need to go onto a web site discrediting it, because the thousands of success videos on youtube alone prove that it works, the same can not be said for high intensity training, it just cant. I've never even attempted volume training since completing p90x, because i was turned on to the new hit book, and really loved the idea, and the book itself. I have 3 mike mentzer books, casey viators book (which by the way he writes that volume training overall worked better for him, and he himself today prescribes volume training for his clients) dorian yates book, tried all the different routines, diets. I even changed gyms because the gym I was at only had cybex machines so i went to a gym with nautilus ones. Meanwhile, my buddy, who doesn't know anything about training, buys Joe Weider's ultimate bodybuilding book, and in less than 2 years completely transforms his body from 160 to 190 all natural.


fat loss has little to do with your exercise program.

if you want fat loss results w/ a hit program you better regulate the diet.

simple


actually, burning 600-750 calories per p90x program, and being able to not starve has plenty to do with weight loss. Body recomp was fine i was eating 2600 cals a day which is far from starving myself on a 1500 calorie diet as prescribed on this site often. not here to argue please don't take it that way, nor am i saying p90x is the best program out there, i just used it not knowing anything and got great results, check out body building dot com, all the transformations on there. . .and there are hundreds, from fat loss to muscle gain and anywhere between, they all have something in common, high volume training, zero, not one person on there got the results they did by using a brief, short, high intensity program. sure you can cut calories and loose weight, if you want to starve, go for it, burning hardly any calories in a short 15-20 min hit session will force you to do so. meanwhile, crank up the volume and you can crank up the calories.
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chasbari

Ohio, USA

Landau wrote:
P90X - see The Return to the Primitive Part 2 at www.exercisefraud.com - This shows why the Pathetic Mentality of the "fitness" industry is lower than whale shit at the bottom of the ocean.


Kind of made me chuckle.. I like this analogy David.
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Bullen-Whatling

Thanks for the thread ST3, I'm sure many of us have considered becoming personal trainers in the future or in the past, or are currently trainers. Whichever, it's great to get some insight!

Thanks mate,

Rob
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st3

swede360 wrote:
Thanks for the thread ST3, I'm sure many of us have considered becoming personal trainers in the future or in the past, or are currently trainers. Whichever, it's great to get some insight!

Thanks mate,

Rob


Yes sir...you're welcome! I'll post a few more as time allows.
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Mr. Strong

The ROM on the Dips seemed very short, too much weight?

He didn't look in control during the Chins, especially at the top, again could do with lowering the weight and building back up with better control and technique.
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fbcoach

Just to re-iterate what everyone else is saying. It nice to see the realistic advice and results from an abbreviated HIT workout. Especially guys in our age bracket. You don't need these 5-6 days per week training sessions.

You can develop astrength, hypertrophy, and stamina training in an abbreviated style. I train 2 days per week, and also participate in a hobby of mine a couple time per week. I am back to benching 315lbs for reps after surgery in July.

In my opinion, it takes a commitment to staying methodical in your training, and monitoring your diet. It's that simple. Anyway, thanks for the videos. They are inspiring.
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Acerimmer1

If you pre-exhaust lats won't your body just find a way to do the exercise that is more reliant on biceps. Couldn't you just be teaching yourself to recruit lats less when chinning?
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st3

Mr. Strong wrote:
The ROM on the Dips seemed very short, too much weight?

He didn't look in control during the Chins, especially at the top, again could do with lowering the weight and building back up with better control and technique.


Mr. Strong,
Yes sir, you are correct and I agree. He usually does better with his control. I even commented on his speed and control before he started the chins and was a little surprised that he went faster than normal. I think knowing it was being videoed that got him.
As far a ROM on dips. He may have gotten about 2 more inches but the fact is even wothout added resistance his ROM is the same. I don't have clients go too deep on dips as it seems to cause some shoulder impingement at times.
Thanks for the feedback.
Steve
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natemason5

Ontario, CAN

Great videos and background info. Nip is strong. A question...why not have him go to a dead hang between each rep for chins? I've always fully stretched before beginning the next rep on chins. Is he instructed not to fully extend?

Nate
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