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marcrph

North Carolina, USA

I really enjoy coffee.


http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=Ilzr-UhFZnw
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sonny153

I'm making one up right now!
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

marcrph wrote:
I really enjoy coffee.


http://www.youtube.com/...-UhFZnw


==Scott==
Never touch the stuff.I'm always amazed at how many people around me a work live on coffee.Some have 5 cups a day. I'm never getting enough sleep due to family and work but the thought never enters my mind to drink a stimulant to keep awake or perk me up.It does smell good though.
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simon-hecubus

Texas, USA

The question is: Did his blood panels improve because of his BP coffee or simply because he practices intermittent fasting?
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TOM C

I just had a cup of this:

http://www.straussherbco.com/...tion=view&id=93

Ingredients: Gourmet coffee infused with gingko biloba, ginseng, guarana, yerba mate.
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natemason5

Ontario, CAN

Where do you get grass fed butter? Neat video.

Nate

I'm having a cup of Joe right now...no butter in it though...just cream and sugar.

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marcrph

North Carolina, USA

I'm having my cup of Joe now.

Butter from grass-fed cows in Ireland, unsalted, and coconut oil.


It's so good, I'm sure the government will soon levy taxation. I called my congressman just in case, and he said I was too o-l-d to vote. LOL
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Tony Williams

entsminger wrote:
marcrph wrote:
I really enjoy coffee.


http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=Ilzr-UhFZnw

==Scott==
Never touch the stuff.I'm always amazed at how many people around me a work live on coffee.Some have 5 cups a day. I'm never getting enough sleep due to family and work but the thought never enters my mind to drink a stimulant to keep awake or perk me up.It does smell good though.


Scott,

You were in broadcasting weren't you?

When I was in radio, a lot of on-air people, myself included, drank coffee like it was water.

After drinking so much for so long, it ceased to be a stimulant. It was simply a habit.

Now, I rarely drink it ... sometimes during a cold snap.

When I was AT&T, a lot of the women seemed to drink four or more 12 oz. diet Cokes a day.

A lot of people drink iced tea in Texas, but so heavily sweetened it reminds me of jelly.

One question: how much of a temporary spike in blood pressure does caffeine cause, if any?

Tony
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marcrph

North Carolina, USA

simon-hecubus wrote:
The question is: Did his blood panels improve because of his BP coffee or simply because he practices intermittent fasting?


Ah.......Doubting Thomas......negative waves..........
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Tony Williams wrote:
entsminger wrote:
marcrph wrote:
I really enjoy coffee.


http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=Ilzr-UhFZnw

==Scott==
Never touch the stuff.I'm always amazed at how many people around me a work live on coffee.Some have 5 cups a day. I'm never getting enough sleep due to family and work but the thought never enters my mind to drink a stimulant to keep awake or perk me up.It does smell good though.

Scott,

You were in broadcasting weren't you?

When I was in radio, a lot of on-air people, myself included, drank coffee like it was water.

After drinking so much for so long, it ceased to be a stimulant. It was simply a habit.

Now, I rarely drink it ... sometimes during a cold snap.

When I was AT&T, a lot of the women seemed to drink four or more 12 oz. diet Cokes a day.

A lot of people drink iced tea in Texas, but so heavily sweetened it reminds me of jelly.

One question: how much of a temporary spike in blood pressure does caffeine cause, if any?

Tony


==Scott==
I'm a Television cameraman and I still do on camera skits as well. I'm the Fairfax County Public Schools How to guy etc,, These folks I work with can't function without their coffee.

Check out this site to see me in Dr. Rocket, Pre School child find or Operation Prevention

http://www.youtube.com/...lark1976/videos
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HeavyHitter32

I seem to recall some research indicating coffee helped prevent against diabetes.
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Tony Williams

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
I seem to recall some research indicating coffee helped prevent against diabetes.


HH,

A woman mentioned that same thing to me a couple of days ago. I had never heard that.

Tony

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fbcoach

Tony Williams wrote:
entsminger wrote:
marcrph wrote:
I really enjoy coffee.


http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=Ilzr-UhFZnw

==Scott==
Never touch the stuff.I'm always amazed at how many people around me a work live on coffee.Some have 5 cups a day. I'm never getting enough sleep due to family and work but the thought never enters my mind to drink a stimulant to keep awake or perk me up.It does smell good though.

Scott,

You were in broadcasting weren't you?

When I was in radio, a lot of on-air people, myself included, drank coffee like it was water.

After drinking so much for so long, it ceased to be a stimulant. It was simply a habit.

Now, I rarely drink it ... sometimes during a cold snap.

When I was AT&T, a lot of the women seemed to drink four or more 12 oz. diet Cokes a day.

A lot of people drink iced tea in Texas, but so heavily sweetened it reminds me of jelly.

One question: how much of a temporary spike in blood pressure does caffeine cause, if any?

Tony


May 24, 2003
Question: I?m about to start taking Isocort for adrenal support. I ordered the product from an online company. The woman who took my order said I?m not supposed to use caffeine while taking Isocort. She said to get off caffeine before starting the Isocort and to say off it. In The Metabolic Treatment of Fibromyalgia, you tell us that using caffeine is OK. (Thanks for including a whole chapter on the subject.) But I?ve now gotten used to it again, and if I?m not supposed to take it while using Isocort, I'll have to wean off it before starting the Isocort. Please let me know whether the woman is right so that I can proceed the right way.

Dr. Lowe: What the woman told you is wrong. Unless you have a special problem with caffeine, I know of no reason why you shouldn?t use it while you take Isocort.

The online company you bought the Isocort from is sponsored by a group of alternative doctors. The woman who took your order was probably parroting a false belief of those doctors. Many alternative doctors hold two false and scientifically indefensible beliefs about caffeine: that it "burns out the adrenal glands" and "eats the fatty lining off nerves." Ask the doctors for scientific evidence for this putative damage and you?ll learn they have none. In contrast, ample scientific evidence contradicts the beliefs.

The alternative doctors? intention is good. Their false belief that caffeine causes harm derives from a principle they subscribe to?that in general, our health is served best by avoiding or minifying our intake of chemicals foreign to the body. For most people, though, this general principle doesn?t apply to caffeine. The reason is simple: Caffeine safely and effectively counteracts some of the metabolism-slowing effects of life in modern civilization. By counteracting these effects with caffeine, most people can fine tune their metabolism so that it better meets their individual needs. In this and many other respects, using caffeine is salutary, and for some people, failing to use it can be just the opposite?injurious to their health.

For the anti-caffeine fanatics among our readers, however, I quickly add: We know as well as you do that some people overdo caffeine. But the overindulgence of a few is no reason for most people to abstain from caffeine and forfeit its potential benefits.

The belief of some alternative doctors that patients should give up caffeine when using Isocort is bad advice from good guys. We?ve searched but never found a shred of evidence that caffeine "burns out the adrenal glands" or "eats the fatty lining off nerves." Unless you have a specific problem with caffeine, then, you?re likely to be perfectly safe using moderate amounts with your Isocort. Best of luck with your metabolic rehab, including your temperate use of caffeine.

March 23, 2003
Criticism: I don't claim to have read everything you've ever written on caffeine use as it pertains to human health, but I get the impression from your statement of 1/13/03 that you assume caffeine and its various sources to be interchangeable. If in fact you are guilty of this assumption, you would hardly be alone. The medical literature is full of studies which employ coffee as a treatment variable but report its effect (if any) as that of caffeine. This is nuts.

Coffee contains over 300 organic compounds, many of which are known to be pharmacologically active or irritating. Tea must be similarly complex. That's why I hope you?ll urge your readers to distinguish caffeine tablets from coffee, tea, etc.

I, for example, can take Vivarin tablets (or half tablets) with no ill effects. But a cup of coffee delivering an equivalent amount of caffeine will upset my stomach something awful.

Dr. Lowe: You're correct about the chemical complexity of coffee and tea. You?re also correct about the need for clarifying for our readers that coffee and tea consumption isn't synonymous with caffeine use. I didn't realize that the content of the caffeine page of drlowe.com might leave readers confused about this important issue.

We actually recommend to patients that they use caffeine tablets, as you do. In this respect, we agree with Dr. Dean Adel?s advice to his radio listeners. Using caffeine tablets is especially important for those who react to coffee or tea with gastric irritation. But it's also important for patients learning precisely how much caffeine benefits them without causing adverse effects.

Thanks for taking the time to write and point out the need for clarification. Best wishes for your healthful use of caffeine.

More on Caffeine: For Most People, Moderate Caffeine
Use Does Not Increase Pain

December 31, 2002
Criticism: I?ve just read the section on caffeine on your fibromyalgia website and can't quite believe what I?ve just seen. One of the most widely understood?and proven?aspects of treating this syndrome is the vital need to eliminate caffeine. In fact, eliminating caffeine is quite adequately proven to be a vital element of any healthy diet. The pro-caffeine comments on your website call the credibility of all other information put forth by your organization into serious question. As health "professionals" you should be embarrased (sic) and ashamed, if you can come down from your own caffeine highs long enough to notice. I?m absolutely appalled!

Dr. Lowe:I often think life would be easier for me if I?d submit to social pressures (exemplified by your e-mail) and climb onto the heavily-populated bandwagon of false assumptions. I can?t do that, though; if I did, I?d give myself too rough a time for violating my commitment to scientific truth. Hence, I?ll just have to stick with expressing beliefs I deem scientifically true and risk the occasional critic denouncing our entire website because he disagrees with one section of it.

I?ve debated the pros and cons of caffeine use with some physicians, such as the Internet?s David Nye, M.D. Seldom have they backed up their points of view with scientific evidence. Rather, they typically argue, "The whole medical profession disagrees with you." Of course, the whole profession doesn?t disagree with me. But even if it did, its consensus would have no bearing whatever on the truth or falsity of the question at hand: Is caffeine good or bad for our health? Only evidence?not consensus!?can show us whether this or any proposition is true or false.

My challenge to you is to present your evidence that eliminating caffeine is "vital" to patients recovering from fibromyalgia, or "vital" to health in general. I'll open-mindedly consider revising our stance on caffeine pending my review of your evidence. It must be hot off the presses. In the past, I?ve scrupulously studied the scientific literature on caffeine. In doing so, I?ve seen no evidence that moderate caffeine use is harmful to people in general?or to fibromyalgia patients in particular. Conversely, I?ve seen a steady growth of scientific evidence that prudent caffeine use can promote health in various ways. And many years of clinical experience have shown us that most fibromyalgia patients are helped and not harmed by the temperate use of caffeine. Despite this, as a critical rationalist, I stand ever ready to abandon my beliefs that evidence shows to be wrong. In the mean time, you?ll have to excuse me while I get a cup of coffee and get back to work.

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October 24, 1997
Question: I read that caffeine helps with cognitive function. I am in school and having a very difficult time with exams. Is it possible I could benefit from caffeine supplements to help with cognitive abilities?

Dr. Lowe: It is highly probable that caffeine will improve your mental performance, both in studying for and in taking your exams. My clinical experience shows that this is especially likely if your cognitive abilities are impaired as part of fibromyalgia.

There are many published studies on the effects of caffeine on cognitive function. It fact, caffeine is listed as a mild brain stimulant and "cognitive enhancer." Caffeine has been reported to improve performance on tests of attention, sustained attention, semantic memory, logical reasoning, free recall, delayed recall, problem-solving, recognition tasks, mental speed-related tasks, perceptual sensitivity in visual search, reading speed, and perception of problems. Tolerance to the performance-enhancing effects of caffeine doesn't appear to develop. Caffeine has also been found to improve mood and relieve depression. Even small amounts induce users to feel more "clearheaded," happier, calmer, and less tense. In addition, caffeine consumption is correlated with a lower suicide rate.

There are other potential benefits from caffeine use, especially for fibromyalgia patients. Caffeine increases mitochondrial oxygen consumption, raises the metabolic rate, produces physiological arousal and wakefulness, increases energy level, increases internal and skin temperatures, and decreases pain (caffeine is part of many analgesic formulations because it augments the pain-killing effect of other medications).

I have at least three qualifications, however. First, determine whether you have any adverse effects from caffeine. Some people do, although in general, caffeine consumption is safe. Most "harmful" effects involve improper use. For example, some people simply consume too much and make themselves anxious or nervous. Others consume caffeine before they try to sleep and have insomnia. Reasonable precautions should obviously be exercised.

Second, for caffeine to be of benefit, you must find what for you is an effective and non-overstimulating dosage. This means finding the minimal amount that provides the level of cognitive function you desire, and at the same time, a dosage that doesn't make you anxious, restless, or irritable. Some people induce these symptoms in themselves by taking higher and higher doses of caffeine to further increase their energy level and improve their mood and cognitive function. But these symptoms from caffeine overstimulation can actually impede cognitive performance. The tendency of some people to impair their cognitive function with these symptoms has probably contributed to the anti-caffeine posture of many wellness advocates and holistic physicians. Typical is a statement by Dr. Ward Dean and John Morgenthaler in their 1991 book on improving mental abilities (Smart Drugs & Nutrients: How to Improve Your Memory and Increase Your Intelligence Using the Latest Discoveries in Neuroscience, Santa Cruz, B&J Publications, page 34): "The research we've seen suggests that coffee may have some intelligence-lowering effects. Unless you are truly addicted and require coffee for functioning, we recommend that coffee be avoided during intellectually-demanding situations." It's simply not true, of course, that research suggests caffeine has intelligence-lowering effects. And contrary to their view, it would be wise (based on the scientific evidence) for most people to use some caffeine before intellectually demanding tasks?that is, as long as the user consumes enough but not too much caffeine!

The third qualification concerns your own attitude toward your consumption of caffeine. Today, an anti-caffeine prejudice predominates among health care professionals and writers of self-help literature. By "prejudice" I mean that these people have concluded that caffeine is harmful without logically evaluating the available evidence. If you accept their unscientific conclusion, and while consuming caffeine, hold fearful thoughts of it harming you, you may eventually be harmed psychophysiologically by your own thoughts rather than by the caffeine (the equivalent of a disease-inducing hypnotic suggestion).

With these qualifications in mind, I would advise you to use caffeine (assuming you have no specific adverse effects from it) judiciously?that is, ignore the unscientific warnings against caffeine use, find the dosage that for you is enough but not too much, and consume it shamelessly!

More About Caffeine

Some fibromyalgia support group leaders and doctors believe that caffeine increases pain. For this reason they advise fibromyalgia patients to stop all caffeine use. These group leaders and doctors are wrong, and most patients would best reject their advice.



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entsminger

Virginia, USA

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
I seem to recall some research indicating coffee helped prevent against diabetes.


==Scott==
Interesting! I wonder how it does that?
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Tony Williams

entsminger wrote:
HeavyHitter32 wrote:
I seem to recall some research indicating coffee helped prevent against diabetes.

==Scott==
Interesting! I wonder how it does that?


Coffee literally sucks sugar out of your bloodstream.

Sorry, I have no idea. How many studies have we seen on coffee in the last five years or so?

Scott, you were right about one thing. People who do not drink coffee often think it smells good but do not like the taste.

I was never a big coffee fan. Never had a cup until I was 25. I drank it for the caffeine while doing early mornings shifts in broadcasting.

And, although I don't, I'm sure many use caffeine prior to their workouts.

Tony
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Tony Williams

But I must say that Marc's concoction looks good.

Tony
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HeavyHitter32

Some research discussion on why coffee may help prevent Type II Diabetes.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/...10113102200.htm

http://www.vancouversun.com/...0044/story.html

http://coffeetea.about.com/...lthdiabetes.htm
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Tony Williams

HeavyHitter32 wrote:
Some research discussion on why coffee may help prevent Type II Diabetes.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/...10113102200.htm

http://www.vancouversun.com/...0044/story.html

http://coffeetea.about.com/...lthdiabetes.htm


And the "Science Daily" article indicates it must be caffeinated coffee to help prevent Type 2 Diabetes.

Decaf will not do the trick.

Interesting, thanks.

Tony
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marcrph

North Carolina, USA

Tony Williams wrote:
But I must say that Marc's concoction looks good.

Tony


Thanks Tony.....

The butter from grass-fed cows really tastes good.
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Nautilus1975

marcrph wrote:
I'm having my cup of Joe now.

Butter from grass-fed cows in Ireland, unsalted, and coconut oil.


It's so good, I'm sure the government will soon levy taxation. I called my congressman just in case, and he said I was too o-l-d to vote. LOL



What kind of stone is that counter top - or is it synthetic?

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marcrph

North Carolina, USA

Nautilus1975 wrote:
marcrph wrote:
I'm having my cup of Joe now.

Butter from grass-fed cows in Ireland, unsalted, and coconut oil.


It's so good, I'm sure the government will soon levy taxation. I called my congressman just in case, and he said I was too o-l-d to vote. LOL


What kind of stone is that counter top - or is it synthetic?



?????Looks like granite??????
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summaHIT

Ontario, CAN

If coffee, beer, and cigars kill, I would be dead. Nuf said!

ps. I know the cigars will get me but I have stubborn genetics.
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kulitsa

New York, USA

Coffee is awesome, I am having some right now.

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southbeach

marcrph wrote:
I really enjoy coffee.


http://www.youtube.com/...-UhFZnw


Marc, that's not coffee. Coffee should be dark in color, rich, nothing else. Those that truly "love the bean" don't sweeten it up with frothy additives.

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marcrph

North Carolina, USA

southbeach wrote:
marcrph wrote:
I really enjoy coffee.


http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=Ilzr-UhFZnw

Marc, that's not coffee. Coffee should be dark in color, rich, nothing else. Those that truly "love the bean" don't sweeten it up with frothy additives.



I like it "black" also.
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