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Tony Williams

(Arlington, Texas is located between Dallas and Fort Worth.)

Arlington police chief fires 17-year veteran at center of federal steroid probe, vows to increase random drug testing

By Selwyn Crawford
5:30 pm on June 13, 2013

Arlington Police Chief Will Johnson Thursday fired a 17-year-department veteran at the center of a federal steroids probe.

In addition, Johnson also announced an immediate expansion of the department's random drug testing program to include all employees.

Johnson fired officer Thomas Kantzos, who has been charged by federal authorities with using a police computer to tip off a steroids dealer. Kantzos, who was arrested Tuesday, is free on his own recognizance.

Another Arlington officer, Craig Hermans, remains on administrative leave in connection with the case. A third officer, David Vo, killed himself earlier this week after his arrest last weekend on the same case.

"Thomas Kantzos violated the public trust," Kohnson said Thursday during a news conference at police headquarters. "For this reason I have terminated Mr. Kantzos employment with the city of Arlington."

Johnson also issued a warning to any other Arlington officers who might be using illegal steroids, stating flatly that any such employee "will be terminated."

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NewYorker

New York, USA

Ain't that a kick in the head? Arlington Texas? hmmmmm
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Tony Williams

NewYorker wrote:
Ain't that a kick in the head? Arlington Texas? hmmmmm


Ronnie Coleman was a police officer in Arlington at one time.

Tony

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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Tony Williams wrote:
NewYorker wrote:
Ain't that a kick in the head? Arlington Texas? hmmmmm

Ronnie Coleman was a police officer in Arlington at one time.

Tony



==Scott==
So was Sergio. These guys want to be big so they can man handle suspects so they are prime candidates for steroid use.I met this fellow who was about 5'5" at an event a while back and his arms resembled Sergios at his peak.At least 20 inches.Turns out he was a police officer for a living. I'm sure there was some looking the other way by his superiors.
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

Tony Williams wrote:
NewYorker wrote:
Ain't that a kick in the head? Arlington Texas? hmmmmm

Ronnie Coleman was a police officer in Arlington at one time.

Tony



Nah, these hypocrites would not fire Ronnie, in fact he is probably on "do not touch" list, just like some other bodybuilders, pro-wrestlers, and some "genetically gifted" movie stars.

Face it, Hollywood would be nothing without steroids, certain sports would not exist if there were no steroids, steroids made movie stars and politicians.

What we do need in our country is a law against hypocrisy!
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Frank Scott

Is it against the law in America to possess steroids for personal use?
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Mr. Strong

kulitsa wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
NewYorker wrote:
Ain't that a kick in the head? Arlington Texas? hmmmmm

Ronnie Coleman was a police officer in Arlington at one time.

Tony



Nah, these hypocrites would not fire Ronnie, in fact he is probably on "do not touch" list, just like some other bodybuilders, pro-wrestlers, and some "genetically gifted" movie stars.

Face it, Hollywood would be nothing without steroids, certain sports would not exist if there were no steroids, steroids made movie stars and politicians.

What we do need in our country is a law against hypocrisy!




Hollywood would be nothing without steroids? WTF are you going on about. I go to the cinema fairly regular and I don't remember a single film that the stars even looked like there was even a hint of steroid use.

I can't even think of many top movie stars who even look that big.

Sports would exist with or without steroids, as long as someone wants to play it or watch it then it will be around.
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Tony Williams

Mr. Strong wrote:
kulitsa wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
NewYorker wrote:
Ain't that a kick in the head? Arlington Texas? hmmmmm

Ronnie Coleman was a police officer in Arlington at one time.

Tony



Nah, these hypocrites would not fire Ronnie, in fact he is probably on "do not touch" list, just like some other bodybuilders, pro-wrestlers, and some "genetically gifted" movie stars.

Face it, Hollywood would be nothing without steroids, certain sports would not exist if there were no steroids, steroids made movie stars and politicians.

What we do need in our country is a law against hypocrisy!




Hollywood would be nothing without steroids? WTF are you going on about. I go to the cinema fairly regular and I don't remember a single film that the stars even looked like there was even a hint of steroid use.

I can't even think of many top movie stars who even look that big.

Sports would exist with or without steroids, as long as someone wants to play it or watch it then it will be around.


Stallone did.

He was caught at an airport terminal with his stash.

In the "Rocky" sequels, it was obvious he was taking PEDs. In the first and best "Rocky" film, he looked natural like a real boxer.

Tony

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Tony Williams

Frank Scott wrote:
Is it against the law in America to possess steroids for personal use?


Unless you have a doctor's prescription for those drugs.

In the U.S., anabolic steroids are in a class called controlled substances.

Tony
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

Frank Scott wrote:
Is it against the law in America to possess steroids for personal use?


Yes. We are probably one of a few countries where personal use is illegal. It is legal in Britain for sure.

Get the book, Legal Muscle, it contains the text of legislation as well as the history and many other interesting things. A must have for anyone interested in bodybuilding. BTW initially nobody wanted to schedule AAS as a controlled substance. Plus there is no proof of harmful side effects. More people day per any given year from alcohol, tobacco, aspirin and other stuff. Yet all of that is still legal.

I am not opposing our laws, however I am against biased & selective enforcement of the laws.
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Mr. Strong

Tony Williams wrote:
Mr. Strong wrote:
kulitsa wrote:
Tony Williams wrote:
NewYorker wrote:
Ain't that a kick in the head? Arlington Texas? hmmmmm

Ronnie Coleman was a police officer in Arlington at one time.

Tony



Nah, these hypocrites would not fire Ronnie, in fact he is probably on "do not touch" list, just like some other bodybuilders, pro-wrestlers, and some "genetically gifted" movie stars.

Face it, Hollywood would be nothing without steroids, certain sports would not exist if there were no steroids, steroids made movie stars and politicians.

What we do need in our country is a law against hypocrisy!




Hollywood would be nothing without steroids? WTF are you going on about. I go to the cinema fairly regular and I don't remember a single film that the stars even looked like there was even a hint of steroid use.

I can't even think of many top movie stars who even look that big.

Sports would exist with or without steroids, as long as someone wants to play it or watch it then it will be around.

Stallone did.

He was caught at an airport terminal with his stash.

In the "Rocky" sequels, it was obvious he was taking PEDs. In the first and best "Rocky" film, he looked natural like a real boxer.

Tony





That's only one actor, and even though he looked great in those films, his physique was attainable natural.

He was caught in the airport in more recent times, not during the original Rocky films.
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Hitit

kulitsa wrote:
Frank Scott wrote:
Is it against the law in America to possess steroids for personal use?

Yes. We are probably one of a few countries where personal use is illegal. It is legal in Britain for sure.

Get the book, Legal Muscle, it contains the text of legislation as well as the history and many other interesting things. A must have for anyone interested in bodybuilding. BTW initially nobody wanted to schedule AAS as a controlled substance. Plus there is no proof of harmful side effects. More people day per any given year from alcohol, tobacco, aspirin and other stuff. Yet all of that is still legal.

I am not opposing our laws, however I am against biased & selective enforcement of the laws.


Yea and others die of stupidity......which is worse?
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Tony Williams

In 2007 in Australia, Stallone was discovered with 48 vials of HGH.

He hired Franco Columbo to help him prepare for Rocky II. His physique changed drastically.

Tony
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Tony Williams

Sylvester Stallone Admits Using Human Growth Hormone

By Sal Marinello Saturday, January 26, 2008

Sylvester Stallone has finally fessed up to what some of us have known for quite a while, in that he has been using HGH and testosterone to prepare for his physically demanding roles of Rocky and Rambo.

Rather than his use his private label supplements that he sells to his fans to prepare for these roles, Stallone has credited a combination of prescription testosterone and HGH with adding 41-pounds to his 61-year old frame.

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Mr. Strong

Tony Williams wrote:
In 2007 in Australia, Stallone was discovered with 48 vials of HGH.

He hired Franco Columbo to help him prepare for Rocky II. His physique changed drastically.

Tony





But, his physique in the Rocky films is attainable natural.
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DNAHelix

New York, USA

Hitit wrote:
Yea and others die of stupidity......which is worse?


So, what qualifies as a stupidity, I wonder?

I thought driving does, more deaths due to driving accidents any day than steroids. Driving, however is still legal, peanut butter too, some people go into shock after a spoonful of a peanut butter, so let's ban peanuts too.
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HeavyHitter32

Tony Williams wrote:
In 2007 in Australia, Stallone was discovered with 48 vials of HGH.

He hired Franco Columbo to help him prepare for Rocky II. His physique changed drastically.

Tony


I seem to recall a story where the police were barging into his apartment and Stallone was allegedly tossing vials out the window before they got into his room.
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Turpin

Perhaps in this day and age of pressure to remain at work ( ie; no sick leave , lest you face disciplinary action & dismissal ) , ever increasing retirement age ( now 65 & increasing ) coupled with the fact that a job such a policeman ( much like a doorman ) requires a fair degree of physical ability , then perhaps the use of steroids is justifiable in order to balance the scales.
Crime is becoming more frequent & violent and Im sure the public would feel more at ease with Officers physically capable of protecting them than one who can only write the statistics after the event.

T.
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backtrack

Turpin wrote:
Perhaps in this day and age of pressure to remain at work ( ie; no sick leave , lest you face disciplinary action & dismissal ) , ever increasing retirement age ( now 65 & increasing ) coupled with the fact that a job such a policeman ( much like a doorman ) requires a fair degree of physical ability , then perhaps the use of steroids is justifiable in order to balance the scales.
Crime is becoming more frequent & violent and Im sure the public would feel more at ease with Officers physically capable of protecting them than one who can only write the statistics after the event.
T.


This is true especially in the UK where steroid or equivalent substance are on the rise.
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sgb2112

In the USA, our cops are plenty violent enough as is..last thing they need is to get on the juice.
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Turpin

sgb2112 wrote:
In the USA, our cops are plenty violent enough as is..last thing they need is to get on the juice.


Try living with the restrictions placed on UK police and the subsequent lawless society it creates.
Law enforcement should mean just that ... the power to ENFORCE !

T.

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Frank Scott

And 99% of the population agrees with you.
Democracy?
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Turpin wrote:
sgb2112 wrote:
In the USA, our cops are plenty violent enough as is..last thing they need is to get on the juice.

Try living with the restrictions placed on UK police and the subsequent lawless society it creates.
Law enforcement should mean just that ... the power to ENFORCE !

T.



==Scott==
The problem is that cops over here seem to have a tendency to go beyond what is necessary sometimes. Just the other day a swatt team stormed a house to serve a warrant in the middle of the night ( See Washington Post) and threw flash bangs in and outside the house waking up it's occupants. In the confusion the person inside reacted to the chaos of the assult on his home in the middle of the night when they were sleeping and grabbed a weapon.

He was shot twice in the temple and multiple other times. All this could have been avoided had the police not been so aggressive and handled the situation in a more civilized manner. This type aggressive behavior is what you'd expect to see from a steroid user, not a servant of the public who's job it is to protect us, not kill us.
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Turpin

entsminger wrote:
Turpin wrote:
sgb2112 wrote:
In the USA, our cops are plenty violent enough as is..last thing they need is to get on the juice.

Try living with the restrictions placed on UK police and the subsequent lawless society it creates.
Law enforcement should mean just that ... the power to ENFORCE !

T.



==Scott==
The problem is that cops over here seem to have a tendency to go beyond what is necessary sometimes. Just the other day a swatt team stormed a house to serve a warrant in the middle of the night ( See Washington Post) and threw flash bangs in and outside the house waking up it's occupants. In the confusion the person inside reacted to the chaos of the assult on his home in the middle of the night when they were sleeping and grabbed a weapon.

He was shot twice in the temple and multiple other times. All this could have been avoided had the police not been so aggressive and handled the situation in a more civilized manner. This type aggressive behavior is what you'd expect to see from a steroid user, not a servant of the public who's job it is to protect us, not kill us.


Im sure there must have been justification in their actions , as someone must have risk assessed and sanctioned the subsequent sequence of events.

Anyway .... here in the UK police are reliant on baton and grappling in most circumstance , and with this in mind Id much rather have Judge Dredd than Pee wee Herman.

T.

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Tomislav

New York, USA

entsminger wrote:
Turpin wrote:
sgb2112 wrote:
In the USA, our cops are plenty violent enough as is..last thing they need is to get on the juice.

Try living with the restrictions placed on UK police and the subsequent lawless society it creates.
Law enforcement should mean just that ... the power to ENFORCE !

T.

==Scott==
The problem is that cops over here seem to have a tendency to go beyond what is necessary sometimes. Just the other day a swatt team stormed a house to serve a warrant in the middle of the night ( See Washington Post) and threw flash bangs in and outside the house waking up it's occupants. In the confusion the person inside reacted to the chaos of the assult on his home in the middle of the night when they were sleeping and grabbed a weapon.

He was shot twice in the temple and multiple other times. All this could have been avoided had the police not been so aggressive and handled the situation in a more civilized manner. This type aggressive behavior is what you'd expect to see from a steroid user, not a servant of the public who's job it is to protect us, not kill us.


Excellent post Scott; I think Turpin may be wearing rose coloured glasses here regarding lawless societies:

http://www.youtube.com/...h?v=irVlwb8a3TU

I would add that the topic of this thread is misleading; he was only fired for using an agency computer to tip off his dealer - it was OK for him to be on the juice until then.

Here's an idea - maybe instead they should train regularly and naturally for years so as to build a foundation of character and discipline, like Turpin has done with his good example. Discipline and character take years to build - there are no short cuts from a bottle.
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