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Ray200 wrote:
Equity wrote:
Yes Hoerbel. Never heard that story before though.

Tremendous physique and obviously arms especially for a strongman. People have said now he used synthol; not too sure because he wasn't a bodybuilder and how would that benefit him? I'm clueless on this one.

Regards.


Steve Neece was the name of the journalist. He did a series of challenges which, if memory serves, only Anthony Clark agreed to participate in.
Hoeberl said he would prove his curling strength but only if the money was greatly increased. Never happened.
A powerlifter and strongman, but his money was made from his 25" arms so it wouldn't surprise me if he used certain "methods" to increase the size.

R.


Thats him (Neece), yeah Clark did a reverse grip bench press with about 550-600lb if i recall right?

Hoeberl, i like him, but had he not have blown his arms up, i think he could have gone further. When Taylor won in 93 he was going well, but his arms started cramping up and giving him problems, in 94 he lost to Magnus Ver Magnusson by a half point. Two near fatal car crashes finnished him.
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Ray200 wrote:
Equity wrote:
Yes Hoerbel. Never heard that story before though.

Tremendous physique and obviously arms especially for a strongman. People have said now he used synthol; not too sure because he wasn't a bodybuilder and how would that benefit him? I'm clueless on this one.

Regards.


Steve Neece was the name of the journalist. He did a series of challenges which, if memory serves, only Anthony Clark agreed to participate in.
Hoeberl said he would prove his curling strength but only if the money was greatly increased. Never happened.
A powerlifter and strongman, but his money was made from his 25" arms so it wouldn't surprise me if he used certain "methods" to increase the size.

R.


Thanks for the info. I didn't know that either. Anthony Clark probably would've won anyway due to body mass and shorter arms.

The synthol thing was a bit early though (early 1990's). Not saying it wasn't around but it was mainly in pro bb circles from what I've read. Possibly he was 'in the know' even back then.

Regards.
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sirloin wrote:

Try the squat bar properly today, and whata ya know, i didnt like it lol. Box squat felt all sorts of wrong, Hatfield squats better, but as soon as any real weight was put on, i felt it in the back (compression). We live and learn.

For me, the TBDL and rack pull both below and above the knee still rule supreme:)



Hi Rob,
I tried Hatfield squats yesterday. I have to say they felt great. All reps ATG and dead stops. I did feel something of the compressive forces you mentioned when doing the first 2 reps but after consciously bracing my back thereafter they worked like a dream.
The caveat though is that I only put 2 plates on as a test. With the bar it was 104kg. Very light. I squat 3 times a week so I'll know soon if HSs work but they really did feel wonderful. Fingers crossed but it looks like this is a squat I can do without knee pain. Thanks again for mentioning it.
Incidentally, I got the bar from Amazon and checked the reviews/Q and As prior to buying it. One of them was by a woman who said her husband uses it with 310kg. I thought WTF! The name of the woman: Debbie Pittuck.
I should also state my apologies to all avid HITters for mentioning the name "Hatfield". He and Jones had issues. But if this exercise works with decent weight on it I'll remember Dr Squat in my prayers.

Cheers,
Ray

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sirloin wrote:

Thats him (Neece), yeah Clark did a reverse grip bench press with about 550-600lb if i recall right?

Hoeberl, i like him, but had he not have blown his arms up, i think he could have gone further. When Taylor won in 93 he was going well, but his arms started cramping up and giving him problems, in 94 he lost to Magnus Ver Magnusson by a half point. Two near fatal car crashes finnished him.


Yup, reverse grip benching. Clark took Neece up on his challenge but he lost out. If it was a max effort then that's understandable. You can't be 100 percent every time. Phenomenal lifter.
Hoeberl, I think he was involved in a bike and car crash. His hip in particular was left in a mess. Both he and Magnus Samuelsson (who is usually cited as the strongest curler in strongman) had biceps tears aplenty. I've seen more injuries caused by curls than any other barring squats and deadlifts.

Cheers,
Ray
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sirloin

Ray200 wrote:
sirloin wrote:

Try the squat bar properly today, and whata ya know, i didnt like it lol. Box squat felt all sorts of wrong, Hatfield squats better, but as soon as any real weight was put on, i felt it in the back (compression). We live and learn.

For me, the TBDL and rack pull both below and above the knee still rule supreme:)



Hi Rob,
I tried Hatfield squats yesterday. I have to say they felt great. All reps ATG and dead stops. I did feel something of the compressive forces you mentioned when doing the first 2 reps but after consciously bracing my back thereafter they worked like a dream.
The caveat though is that I only put 2 plates on as a test. With the bar it was 104kg. Very light. I squat 3 times a week so I'll know soon if HSs work but they really did feel wonderful. Fingers crossed but it looks like this is a squat I can do without knee pain. Thanks again for mentioning it.
Incidentally, I got the bar from Amazon and checked the reviews/Q and As prior to buying it. One of them was by a woman who said her husband uses it with 310kg. I thought WTF! The name of the woman: Debbie Pittuck.
I should also state my apologies to all avid HITters for mentioning the name "Hatfield". He and Jones had issues. But if this exercise works with decent weight on it I'll remember Dr Squat in my prayers.

Cheers,
Ray



Absoulutely, its like Bruce Lee said, "obsorb what is useful, reject what is useless".
Same here, around a 100-120kg feels fine, but once i took it up beyond the !50-160kg mark (moderate weight), my back felt it. But they'll do for some low stress volume work.

Yeah, some can move a lotta weight on it, heres 740lb for 6!
https://youtu.be/_971pSPzzfU

Enjoy:)
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sirloin

Ray200 wrote:
sirloin wrote:

Thats him (Neece), yeah Clark did a reverse grip bench press with about 550-600lb if i recall right?

Hoeberl, i like him, but had he not have blown his arms up, i think he could have gone further. When Taylor won in 93 he was going well, but his arms started cramping up and giving him problems, in 94 he lost to Magnus Ver Magnusson by a half point. Two near fatal car crashes finnished him.

Yup, reverse grip benching. Clark took Neece up on his challenge but he lost out. If it was a max effort then that's understandable. You can't be 100 percent every time. Phenomenal lifter.
Hoeberl, I think he was involved in a bike and car crash. His hip in particular was left in a mess. Both he and Magnus Samuelsson (who is usually cited as the strongest curler in strongman) had biceps tears aplenty. I've seen more injuries caused by curls than any other barring squats and deadlifts.

Cheers,
Ray


I agree, i dont believe the bicep tendons can take a whole lot, most of these tears seem to happen on deadlifts using an over / underhand grip and over extending on preacher curls. Seen multiple youtube videos showing just that.
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Ray200 wrote:
sirloin wrote:

Thats him (Neece), yeah Clark did a reverse grip bench press with about 550-600lb if i recall right?

Hoeberl, i like him, but had he not have blown his arms up, i think he could have gone further. When Taylor won in 93 he was going well, but his arms started cramping up and giving him problems, in 94 he lost to Magnus Ver Magnusson by a half point. Two near fatal car crashes finnished him.

Yup, reverse grip benching. Clark took Neece up on his challenge but he lost out. If it was a max effort then that's understandable. You can't be 100 percent every time. Phenomenal lifter.
Hoeberl, I think he was involved in a bike and car crash. His hip in particular was left in a mess. Both he and Magnus Samuelsson (who is usually cited as the strongest curler in strongman) had biceps tears aplenty. I've seen more injuries caused by curls than any other barring squats and deadlifts.

Cheers,
Ray



Sorry I misunderstood.

I thought you meant Neece put up a curling challenge between Clark and Hoerbel.

So he (Neece) out benched Clark?

I'll Google it.

Regards.
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Equity wrote:
Ray200 wrote:
sirloin wrote:

Thats him (Neece), yeah Clark did a reverse grip bench press with about 550-600lb if i recall right?

Hoeberl, i like him, but had he not have blown his arms up, i think he could have gone further. When Taylor won in 93 he was going well, but his arms started cramping up and giving him problems, in 94 he lost to Magnus Ver Magnusson by a half point. Two near fatal car crashes finnished him.

Yup, reverse grip benching. Clark took Neece up on his challenge but he lost out. If it was a max effort then that's understandable. You can't be 100 percent every time. Phenomenal lifter.
Hoeberl, I think he was involved in a bike and car crash. His hip in particular was left in a mess. Both he and Magnus Samuelsson (who is usually cited as the strongest curler in strongman) had biceps tears aplenty. I've seen more injuries caused by curls than any other barring squats and deadlifts.

Cheers,
Ray


Sorry I misunderstood.

I thought you meant Neece put up a curling challenge between Clark and Hoerbel.

So he (Neece) out benched Clark?

I'll Google it.

Regards.


Hi,
No. Neece issued a number of challenges over the years in MuscleMag Intl. I think it was MMI. There were quite a few extreme claims made by bodybuilders such as Jeff Poliquin and others. Clark's claim was his reverse-grip benching. Hoeberl's was his 400lbs curl. Neese said Hoeberl could use a straight bar or EZ Curl bar, straps if he wanted and significant body English. Even 2 reps would have sufficed.
What he would have made of Brad Castleberry now is anyone's guess.

Cheers,
Ray
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sirloin wrote:

Absoulutely, its like Bruce Lee said, "obsorb what is useful, reject what is useless".
Same here, around a 100-120kg feels fine, but once i took it up beyond the !50-160kg mark (moderate weight), my back felt it. But they'll do for some low stress volume work.

Yeah, some can move a lotta weight on it, heres 740lb for 6!
https://youtu.be/_971pSPzzfU

Enjoy:)


Hi Rob,
I'm taking things very slowly. I'll increase the load in increments of 5kg ("slowly"? more like glacial). I could only max 150kg for belt squats. If I can get past that with Hatfield squats without any back pain I'll consider it a bonus.
740lbs for 6. I think that would correspond to maybe 600lbs with a straight bar. Great lifting one way or another.

Cheers,
Ray
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Equity

Ray200 wrote:
Equity wrote:
Ray200 wrote:
sirloin wrote:

Thats him (Neece), yeah Clark did a reverse grip bench press with about 550-600lb if i recall right?

Hoeberl, i like him, but had he not have blown his arms up, i think he could have gone further. When Taylor won in 93 he was going well, but his arms started cramping up and giving him problems, in 94 he lost to Magnus Ver Magnusson by a half point. Two near fatal car crashes finnished him.

Yup, reverse grip benching. Clark took Neece up on his challenge but he lost out. If it was a max effort then that's understandable. You can't be 100 percent every time. Phenomenal lifter.
Hoeberl, I think he was involved in a bike and car crash. His hip in particular was left in a mess. Both he and Magnus Samuelsson (who is usually cited as the strongest curler in strongman) had biceps tears aplenty. I've seen more injuries caused by curls than any other barring squats and deadlifts.

Cheers,
Ray


Sorry I misunderstood.

I thought you meant Neece put up a curling challenge between Clark and Hoerbel.

So he (Neece) out benched Clark?

I'll Google it.

Regards.

Hi,
No. Neece issued a number of challenges over the years in MuscleMag Intl. I think it was MMI. There were quite a few extreme claims made by bodybuilders such as Jeff Poliquin and others. Clark's claim was his reverse-grip benching. Hoeberl's was his 400lbs curl. Neese said Hoeberl could use a straight bar or EZ Curl bar, straps if he wanted and significant body English. Even 2 reps would have sufficed.
What he would have made of Brad Castleberry now is anyone's guess.

Cheers,
Ray


Thanks for the clarification Ray.

Regards.
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sirloin

For the last few weeks ive been weight training just two times per week, full body, one max intensity day and one volume day. Ive joined a small private hotel gym again, to use the swimming pool and cold plunge 2 x per week. Before each swin though, i go into the gym and preform long rope face pulls on the cable machine for 4 sets of 25 (shoulder rehab), and high volume tricep rope work, 4 sets of 15 overhead extension, 4 sets of 15 rope pushdowns.

Last few workouts...

29-12-18 (overload day)
TBDL high handles off floor
255kg x 1 + 5 second hold at top
Paused bench press with reverse mini bands
135kg x 3 sets of 3
Ez bar curl
59kg x 2 sets of 5

26-12-18 (volume day)
Rack pull / hand and thigh lift
320kg x 3 sets of 10 (slight hold at the top of each rep)
Paused bench press with reverse mini bands
108kg x 6 sets of 6
Ez bar curl
37kg x 3 sets of 15

Going to carry on with this appoarch, gives me 3 full recovery days (brisk walk every morning though, rain, hail or shine).

New bars; I actually dont like the safety squat bar or the swiss bar lol, as for legs, neither feel right, besides, the trap bar and rack pull provide all the leg work i require. Theres also no pulldowns or rows (bar for the face pull to balance out the bench press), here again, the TB and RP stimulate the entire back.

Shoulder injury; Shoulder is feeling a not to bad, the reverse bands on the bench press along with face pulls are helping greatly, i decided to speed up the process and will pay for my MRI scan, no matter the outcome, i wont be going down the surgry route. Steriod injections maybe, i'll have to wait and see.

Goals for 2019; To pull a 300kg high handle TBDL single, a 500kg rack pull, and a 160kg reverse band pause bench press triple. Also need to stay on top of my mental health, depression has been trying to creep in again, so staying positive and doing everything i can to keep the darkness at bay (and stay of the head meds).

Diet; Still mostly plant based, what i really need to kick, is my coke habit, i drink way too much of that shit and it goes straight to my gut.

Anyho, hope every had a good holiday, best of luck with your 2019 goals:)






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sirloin wrote:

Goals for 2019; To pull a 300kg high handle TBDL single, a 500kg rack pull, and a 160kg reverse band pause bench press triple. Also need to stay on top of my mental health, depression has been trying to creep in again, so staying positive and doing everything i can to keep the darkness at bay (and stay of the head meds).

Diet; Still mostly plant based, what i really need to kick, is my coke habit, i drink way too much of that shit and it goes straight to my gut.

Anyho, hope every had a good holiday, best of luck with your 2019 goals:)


A belated happy new year, Rob. Good goals for 2019: a 300kg TBD would be quite an achievement. Very rarely do I see even a 250kg deadlift of any style so this would be exceptional lifting.
Fingers crossed that all stays good with you healthwise.

Cheers,
Ray
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sirloin

Ray200 wrote:
sirloin wrote:

Goals for 2019; To pull a 300kg high handle TBDL single, a 500kg rack pull, and a 160kg reverse band pause bench press triple. Also need to stay on top of my mental health, depression has been trying to creep in again, so staying positive and doing everything i can to keep the darkness at bay (and stay of the head meds).

Diet; Still mostly plant based, what i really need to kick, is my coke habit, i drink way too much of that shit and it goes straight to my gut.

Anyho, hope every had a good holiday, best of luck with your 2019 goals:)


A belated happy new year, Rob. Good goals for 2019: a 300kg TBD would be quite an achievement. Very rarely do I see even a 250kg deadlift of any style so this would be exceptional lifting.
Fingers crossed that all stays good with you healthwise.

Cheers,
Ray


Hey Ray, cheers bud. Those are the goals, am also working on the one arm overhead press (right arm only).
My loaf is a bite better, thats the bipolar, your up one minute and down the next. Is what it is.

Bout yourself?





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sirloin wrote:

Hey Ray, cheers bud. Those are the goals, am also working on the one arm overhead press (right arm only).
My loaf is a bite better, thats the bipolar, your up one minute and down the next. Is what it is.

Bout yourself?



Hi Rob,
I know you've had a tough time of things with the fall and your shoulder playing up so I hope anything on top of it is temporary and easily overcome? There would be a real sense of accomplishment if you meet any of these goals in 2019. Are the gym visits helping too? Always found a good workout to be great therapy for the mind.
As for self: aim for the year is a genuine 272kg/600lbs sumo deadlift. Did it last year but that was with straps and a lifting technique that is best described as "flawed". It was a PR attempt but, still ...
Hatfield squats are still on the up. Thanks again for mentioning them. Great feeling to be able to squat ATG without the fear of getting stuck in the bottom. (Squat stands but no rack!)

Cheers,
Ray
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sirloin

Ray200 wrote:
sirloin wrote:

Hey Ray, cheers bud. Those are the goals, am also working on the one arm overhead press (right arm only).
My loaf is a bite better, thats the bipolar, your up one minute and down the next. Is what it is.

Bout yourself?



Hi Rob,
I know you've had a tough time of things with the fall and your shoulder playing up so I hope anything on top of it is temporary and easily overcome? There would be a real sense of accomplishment if you meet any of these goals in 2019. Are the gym visits helping too? Always found a good workout to be great therapy for the mind.
As for self: aim for the year is a genuine 272kg/600lbs sumo deadlift. Did it last year but that was with straps and a lifting technique that is best described as "flawed". It was a PR attempt but, still ...
Hatfield squats are still on the up. Thanks again for mentioning them. Great feeling to be able to squat ATG without the fear of getting stuck in the bottom. (Squat stands but no rack!)

Cheers,
Ray


Hey Ray, thanks bud, somehow i always find a way to work around issue:)

Gym visits are helping, cables allowed for a lot of low stress high volume work etc.
Got talking to a 21 yo girl a few days ago, she'd some of the best quad and ham development ive ever seen, she convinced me to get away from max effort lifting and start doing mostly sets of 5 (i.e., build strength vs demonstrating it). She herself olympic lifts 5 days per week, 2hrs at a time, plus does GPP work...oh to be young again lol.

A smoother 600lb sumo dead, nice, the Hat squat should surely help bring up the sumo up. Make it happen bud.

Best
Rob


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sirloin wrote:
Hey Ray, thanks bud, somehow i always find a way to work around issue:)

Gym visits are helping, cables allowed for a lot of low stress high volume work etc.
Got talking to a 21 yo girl a few days ago, she'd some of the best quad and ham development ive ever seen, she convinced me to get away from max effort lifting and start doing mostly sets of 5 (i.e., build strength vs demonstrating it). She herself olympic lifts 5 days per week, 2hrs at a time, plus does GPP work...oh to be young again lol.

A smoother 600lb sumo dead, nice, the Hat squat should surely help bring up the sumo up. Make it happen bud.

Best
Rob




That's great, Rob. Sitting back's not an option. I had some great gains using cable crossovers--no benching, no dipping, but my pecs were noticeably bigger. Use what you can, heal then return better.
The woman sounds like someone you don't see in the gym often. Olympic lifting too. I think I mentioned that I took up a sort of modified Starting Strength routine and it's ALL sets of 5 with 4-6 minutes rest between sets and rarely do I hit failure. It's a time-proven routine: Mark Berry, Bill Starr and now Mark Rippetoe. It works!
I know the above seems odd on a HIT site but, well, still experimenting even after all these years. A return to basics really.
Mind you, 5 days a week and 2 hours per day would kill me, even using NTF.
The Hatfield Squat is phenomenal. All you need is a cheapo SS bar and something to hold onto. A bit better than forking out nearly a grand on a Zane Leg Blaster. Phenomenal exercise.
Fingers crossed for your aims too. The trap bar is a universally well-regarded implement. There was a guy who used to post on here--fbcoach--who said all he did for his legs were sumo dealifts. Looks like you've found your perfect exercise to hit everything too.

Cheers,
Ray
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Ray200 wrote:
sirloin wrote:
Hey Ray, thanks bud, somehow i always find a way to work around issue:)

Gym visits are helping, cables allowed for a lot of low stress high volume work etc.
Got talking to a 21 yo girl a few days ago, she'd some of the best quad and ham development ive ever seen, she convinced me to get away from max effort lifting and start doing mostly sets of 5 (i.e., build strength vs demonstrating it). She herself olympic lifts 5 days per week, 2hrs at a time, plus does GPP work...oh to be young again lol.

A smoother 600lb sumo dead, nice, the Hat squat should surely help bring up the sumo up. Make it happen bud.

Best
Rob




That's great, Rob. Sitting back's not an option. I had some great gains using cable crossovers--no benching, no dipping, but my pecs were noticeably bigger. Use what you can, heal then return better.
The woman sounds like someone you don't see in the gym often. Olympic lifting too. I think I mentioned that I took up a sort of modified Starting Strength routine and it's ALL sets of 5 with 4-6 minutes rest between sets and rarely do I hit failure. It's a time-proven routine: Mark Berry, Bill Starr and now Mark Rippetoe. It works!
I know the above seems odd on a HIT site but, well, still experimenting even after all these years. A return to basics really.
Mind you, 5 days a week and 2 hours per day would kill me, even using NTF.
The Hatfield Squat is phenomenal. All you need is a cheapo SS bar and something to hold onto. A bit better than forking out nearly a grand on a Zane Leg Blaster. Phenomenal exercise.
Fingers crossed for your aims too. The trap bar is a universally well-regarded implement. There was a guy who used to post on here--fbcoach--who said all he did for his legs were sumo dealifts. Looks like you've found your perfect exercise to hit everything too.

Cheers,
Ray


Hey bud,

Yeah i sometimes hit a gym that has 8 olympic lifting units and a host of hammer strength machines. Theres olympic lifting, crossfit, powerlifting clubs train here. Just got talking to that particular girl, couldnt believe the quads / thigh's on er lol.
Been sticking to sets of 3-5, no maxes. Dan Johns "realistic reps" on me compound lifts, 3x3, 5x2, 5,3,2 or 2 sets of 5.

Glad the Hat squats are working out for ya, you'll be hitten Stef Cohan's sumo dead numbers in no time:)

Yes, one big juicy movement (a deadlift), makes all the differance:)

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First rack pull since before Xmas, 420kg for 5 with 2 second holds on each rep, reduced the ROM to 6", its all about the hold. People say rack pulls are a useless lift, ego lifting etc, but am sore as hell from my calfs to my neck, as are my upper quads and abs, my lats kepted cramping up for several hours after. Theres a reason why old time strongmen have been rack pulling, health lifting, hand / thigh lifting for centuries:)
http://www.fitbomb.com/...h-lift.html?m=1
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sirloin wrote:
First rack pull since before Xmas, 420kg for 5 with 2 second holds on each rep, reduced the ROM to 6", its all about the hold. People say rack pulls are a useless lift, ego lifting etc, but am sore as hell from my calfs to my neck, as are my upper quads and abs, my lats kepted cramping up for several hours after. Theres a reason why old time strongmen have been rack pulling, health lifting, hand / thigh lifting for centuries:)
http://www.fitbomb.com/...tml?m=1


Hi Rob,
Yeah, the Hatfield Squats are going great. Now on 4 plates. They're having a big impact on my sumos too; the weight's flying off the floor. Proof that you don't need to do back squats (high- or low-bar) to reap the benefits. I think I could do 600lbs now but don't want to disturb the cycle and max too soon.
Great work on the rack pulls. 1000lbs is getting close.

Cheers,
Ray
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Quick update....

Hope everyones good...

Been busy this weather, but still training hard 2x daily. Currently focusing on OHPing, Rows, strength has been going up in leaps and bounds.

Day 1
AM
OHP ( BB, Swiss bar, one arm DB or Pin press )
3 sets x 3
Kroc rows x 3 sets with 80kg DB
PM
Curl (BB, fat bar, Swiss bar curl or Reverse curl)
4-5 x 8
Lying triceps extension (Swiss bar or ez bar)
4-5 x 8
Plate pinches (flat side of plates)
Swapping left to right continuously until for 10 holds per hand.

Day 2
AM
Same as day one
PM
Farmers walks
10 x 20metres

Shoulder injury is much better, i think because ive avoided bench pressing, dont miss it, cant see myself benching for a long time. Nothing else causes issues. Next mini cycle I'll focus on deadlifts, BB, TB, Rack pull and TB off 4" blocks.

Diet wise, been training fasted and I'll wait until an hour or two after before having 3 scoops grass fed whey shake, with MCT powder, cacao, and plain almond milk. Dinner most nights am having 300-400g of grass fed steak with spinach, carrots, onions, mushrooms etc. If not beef, then chicken fillets wrapped in bacon n cheese. Dessert I make my own keto ice cream with double cream, coconut butter and cacao. Feeling good.











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The Mrs got me this nice 2ft high farmers walk unit for our wed anniversary, lets me go much heavier as ive just to lift for knee height.

Took er out for a spin last night, managed 258kg (including the weight of the unit) for 2 x 20 metres, then another six 20 metre faster runs with 198kg. Followed up with some 100kg duck walks and bear hug bag carries.

Weight training this morn...

Standing military press with resistance band tension (speed training)
Incline ez bar tri extension
- worked up to 62.5kg for 2 sets of 8
Hammer grip bar preacher curls
- 50kg x 2 max static holds
DB Concentraction curl
- 27.5kg x 2 sets of 8
Reverse grip BB curl
- 30kg x 2 sets of 8
BB wrist cutl
- 85kg x 2 sets of 12,10

Strength has been going up really well at the same BW.
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Last week i returened back to the strongman gym again, looking to take things to the next level and need the right enviroment and equipment.

As ever my focus is on deadlifts, overhead presses, everything else is just gravy.

My only pressing movement am doing is the viking press, alternating grips etc. The barbell, axle bar and log presses makes me light headed when the weight is on my chest, this isnt an issue with the V-press, can also use various tension resistance bands and negatives etc.

With the deads, the focus is farmers walk unit deadlifts, its high handles, but still well below my knee. Just feels better than the trap bar.

Currently training 4 days on / one off.

Workout A
Viking push press (parallel grip facing away from device)
Top set of 1-3, then 8
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Parallel grip chins
2 hard working sets x 8
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Lying ez-bar tri extension
2 working sets x 8
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Swiss bar Hammer curls
2 working sets x 8

Workout B
Farmers walk unit deadlift
Top set of 1-3
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Leg presses
2 hard working sets x 8
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Heavy prowler pushes
2 circuits

Workout C
Viking strict press (overhead grip facing device)
Top set of 1-3, then 8
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Seated cable row
2 hard working sets x 8
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Power pushdowns
2 hard working sets of 8
-----------------
Axle bar curl
2 hard working sets x 8

Workout D
Farmers walk unit deadlift
Top set of 1-3
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Power shrugs
2 hard working sets x 8
-----------------
Weighted hypers
2 hard working sets of 12

No recovery issues as off yet, workouts are very "heavy", but short, adding a little weight to the bar / device each cycle is the plan.

When recovery becomes an issue, i'll switch to 2 one / 1 off, then every other day etc.
I'll get some training pics up in due course. Sis-in-law is back training with me, and well as a 34yo friend who's white collar boxer.
My BW crept up to 280lb over the winter months, i've brought it down to 275lb currently, i'll look to drop it more coming into the hotter months.

Rob
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hit4me

Florida, USA

sirloin wrote:
Last week i returened back to the strongman gym again, looking to take things to the next level and need the right enviroment and equipment.

As ever my focus is on deadlifts, overhead presses, everything else is just gravy.

My only pressing movement am doing is the viking press, alternating grips etc. The barbell, axle bar and log presses makes me light headed when the weight is on my chest, this isnt an issue with the V-press, can also use various tension resistance bands and negatives etc.

With the deads, the focus is farmers walk unit deadlifts, its high handles, but still well below my knee. Just feels better than the trap bar.

Currently training 4 days on / one off.

Workout A
Viking push press (parallel grip facing away from device)
Top set of 1-3, then 8
-------------------
Parallel grip chins
2 hard working sets x 8
------------------
Lying ez-bar tri extension
2 working sets x 8
-----------------------
Swiss bar Hammer curls
2 working sets x 8

Workout B
Farmers walk unit deadlift
Top set of 1-3
--------------------
Leg presses
2 hard working sets x 8
------------------
Heavy prowler pushes
2 circuits

Workout C
Viking strict press (overhead grip facing device)
Top set of 1-3, then 8
------------------------
Seated cable row
2 hard working sets x 8
----------------
Power pushdowns
2 hard working sets of 8
-----------------
Axle bar curl
2 hard working sets x 8

Workout D
Farmers walk unit deadlift
Top set of 1-3
------------------
Power shrugs
2 hard working sets x 8
-----------------
Weighted hypers
2 hard working sets of 12

No recovery issues as off yet, workouts are very "heavy", but short, adding a little weight to the bar / device each cycle is the plan.

When recovery becomes an issue, i'll switch to 2 one / 1 off, then every other day etc.
I'll get some training pics up in due course. Sis-in-law is back training with me, and well as a 34yo friend who's white collar boxer.
My BW crept up to 280lb over the winter months, i've brought it down to 275lb currently, i'll look to drop it more coming into the hotter months.

Rob


he mate, good to see you back....have you ever tried the starting strength program or the barbell prescription...its right up your alley

good job friend
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hit4me

Florida, USA

sirloin wrote:
Last week i returened back to the strongman gym again, looking to take things to the next level and need the right enviroment and equipment.

As ever my focus is on deadlifts, overhead presses, everything else is just gravy.

My only pressing movement am doing is the viking press, alternating grips etc. The barbell, axle bar and log presses makes me light headed when the weight is on my chest, this isnt an issue with the V-press, can also use various tension resistance bands and negatives etc.

With the deads, the focus is farmers walk unit deadlifts, its high handles, but still well below my knee. Just feels better than the trap bar.

Currently training 4 days on / one off.

Workout A
Viking push press (parallel grip facing away from device)
Top set of 1-3, then 8
-------------------
Parallel grip chins
2 hard working sets x 8
------------------
Lying ez-bar tri extension
2 working sets x 8
-----------------------
Swiss bar Hammer curls
2 working sets x 8

Workout B
Farmers walk unit deadlift
Top set of 1-3
--------------------
Leg presses
2 hard working sets x 8
------------------
Heavy prowler pushes
2 circuits

Workout C
Viking strict press (overhead grip facing device)
Top set of 1-3, then 8
------------------------
Seated cable row
2 hard working sets x 8
----------------
Power pushdowns
2 hard working sets of 8
-----------------
Axle bar curl
2 hard working sets x 8

Workout D
Farmers walk unit deadlift
Top set of 1-3
------------------
Power shrugs
2 hard working sets x 8
-----------------
Weighted hypers
2 hard working sets of 12

No recovery issues as off yet, workouts are very "heavy", but short, adding a little weight to the bar / device each cycle is the plan.

When recovery becomes an issue, i'll switch to 2 one / 1 off, then every other day etc.
I'll get some training pics up in due course. Sis-in-law is back training with me, and well as a 34yo friend who's white collar boxer.
My BW crept up to 280lb over the winter months, i've brought it down to 275lb currently, i'll look to drop it more coming into the hotter months.

Rob


he mate, good to see you back....have you ever tried the starting strength program or the barbell prescription...its right up your alley

good job friend
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hit4me

Florida, USA

sirloin wrote:
Last week i returened back to the strongman gym again, looking to take things to the next level and need the right enviroment and equipment.

As ever my focus is on deadlifts, overhead presses, everything else is just gravy.

My only pressing movement am doing is the viking press, alternating grips etc. The barbell, axle bar and log presses makes me light headed when the weight is on my chest, this isnt an issue with the V-press, can also use various tension resistance bands and negatives etc.

With the deads, the focus is farmers walk unit deadlifts, its high handles, but still well below my knee. Just feels better than the trap bar.

Currently training 4 days on / one off.

Workout A
Viking push press (parallel grip facing away from device)
Top set of 1-3, then 8
-------------------
Parallel grip chins
2 hard working sets x 8
------------------
Lying ez-bar tri extension
2 working sets x 8
-----------------------
Swiss bar Hammer curls
2 working sets x 8

Workout B
Farmers walk unit deadlift
Top set of 1-3
--------------------
Leg presses
2 hard working sets x 8
------------------
Heavy prowler pushes
2 circuits

Workout C
Viking strict press (overhead grip facing device)
Top set of 1-3, then 8
------------------------
Seated cable row
2 hard working sets x 8
----------------
Power pushdowns
2 hard working sets of 8
-----------------
Axle bar curl
2 hard working sets x 8

Workout D
Farmers walk unit deadlift
Top set of 1-3
------------------
Power shrugs
2 hard working sets x 8
-----------------
Weighted hypers
2 hard working sets of 12

No recovery issues as off yet, workouts are very "heavy", but short, adding a little weight to the bar / device each cycle is the plan.

When recovery becomes an issue, i'll switch to 2 one / 1 off, then every other day etc.
I'll get some training pics up in due course. Sis-in-law is back training with me, and well as a 34yo friend who's white collar boxer.
My BW crept up to 280lb over the winter months, i've brought it down to 275lb currently, i'll look to drop it more coming into the hotter months.

Rob


he mate, good to see you back....have you ever tried the starting strength program or the barbell prescription...its right up your alley

good job friend
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