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Tridentine

I know ones hands must be supinated to get the most out of bicep work but I cannot use that little straight part of my bi/tri machine handle. too painful so I am forced to use the angled E-Z curl part.
Any suggestions please?
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Tridentine wrote:
I know ones hands must be supinated to get the most out of bicep work but I cannot use that little straight part of my bi/tri machine handle. too painful so I am forced to use the angled E-Z curl part.
Any suggestions please?


==Scott==
What's wrong with using the easy curl part?
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oldbutsteady

Stop using the machine.

OBS
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Tridentine

I would rather not.
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AndyMitch

Where is it hurting?
If it?s the elbows?
Bring them closer together as opposed to up against the closest to the moment arm
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oldbutsteady

Why? Don't you think you can build muscle without it?

OBS
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AndyMitch

oldbutsteady wrote:
Why? Don't you think you can build muscle without it?

OBS


He?s right!
If it hurts.
Stop using it...
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

==Scott==
You still haven't answered why you can't just use the easy curl part?
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Crotalus

Any bicep apparatus I ever tried bothers my elbows. I can use the preacher bench without a problem but I use it in 'reverse' ; I have my arms hanging straight down and always use an E-Z curl bar.
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sirloin

Tridentine wrote:
I know ones hands must be supinated to get the most out of bicep work but I cannot use that little straight part of my bi/tri machine handle. too painful so I am forced to use the angled E-Z curl part.
Any suggestions please?


According to EMG research, hammer grip curls recruit as many as 10 percent more fibers than supinated curls.
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BorisV

Maryland, USA

I would play with the position of the seat since that can effect the position of the elbows on the pad and the position of the elbows on the pad too (narrow, middle, wide). Therefore, try different options for the vertical and horizontal position of the elbows. I don't see any problem in using EZ curl for this exercise; you will stimulate different fibers of the biceps than with regular curl. Variation is a move in a right direction.
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Tridentine

I feel like my shoulders are going pop out of joint and it feels unnatural no pump even with light and heavy weight
maybe the multi biceps is better
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Tridentine

the seat is fixed
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

sirloin wrote:
Tridentine wrote:
I know ones hands must be supinated to get the most out of bicep work but I cannot use that little straight part of my bi/tri machine handle. too painful so I am forced to use the angled E-Z curl part.
Any suggestions please?

According to EMG research, hammer grip curls recruit as many as 10 percent more fibers than supinated curls.


==Scott==
I recall Arnold using lots of hammer curls, thumbs up. I prefer those to standard palm up curls.I think it's works both forearm and bicep.
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BorisV

Maryland, USA

Tridentine wrote:
the seat is fixed


I didn't know that the seat is fixed. I had a plate-loaded Nautilus Leverage machine, and the seat there was adjustable.
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BorisV

Maryland, USA

Tridentine wrote:
I feel like my shoulders are going pop out of joint and it feels unnatural no pump even with light and heavy weight
maybe the multi biceps is better


What would happen if you use dumbbells or cables while seating in the machine? Will you feel the same tension in the shoulder joints and elbows? If it's so, then the angle/slope of the pad may be bad for you, and it's better to abstain from using it entirely. I do sometimes have a minor aching in the elbow joint using multi-bicep machine, but changing of the seat position and elbow position usually helps together with more thorough warming of the elbows and triceps.
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Tridentine

anyone want to trade a plate loaded bi tri in excellent[like new] condition for a multi bi and tri?
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Crotalus

entsminger wrote

==Scott==
I recall Arnold using lots of hammer curls, thumbs up. I prefer those to standard palm up curls.I think it's works both forearm and bicep.


My favorite biceps exercise is low incline hammer curls. I don't like straight, palms up curls at all.
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blacksheep21

Tridentine wrote:
anyone want to trade a plate loaded bi tri in excellent[like new] condition for a multi bi and tri?

I would go for that. What state are you in?
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epdavis7

Crotalus wrote:
entsminger wrote

==Scott==
I recall Arnold using lots of hammer curls, thumbs up. I prefer those to standard palm up curls.I think it's works both forearm and bicep.

My favorite biceps exercise is low incline hammer curls. I don't like straight, palms up curls at all.


I wish I could have gotten a feel for training biceps and triceps. I never did. The closest I ever got was weighted dips and chins. However I really enjoy forearm and grip work.
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BorisV

Maryland, USA

epdavis7 wrote:
Crotalus wrote:
entsminger wrote

==Scott==
I recall Arnold using lots of hammer curls, thumbs up. I prefer those to standard palm up curls.I think it's works both forearm and bicep.

My favorite biceps exercise is low incline hammer curls. I don't like straight, palms up curls at all.

I wish I could have gotten a feel for training biceps and triceps. I never did. The closest I ever got was weighted dips and chins. However I really enjoy forearm and grip work.


I wonder if your bi and tri are composed of mostly ST fibers. Is there any difference in how you feel when training your left and right arms? I have better neuro-muscular efficiency in my right arm vs left arm, and it affects both strength and size of my arms.
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Tridentine wrote:
anyone want to trade a plate loaded bi tri in excellent[like new] condition for a multi bi and tri?


== Scott==
I?ve asked you twice now, is there some reason the easy curl bar doesn?t work for you?
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sirloin

entsminger wrote:
sirloin wrote:
Tridentine wrote:
I know ones hands must be supinated to get the most out of bicep work but I cannot use that little straight part of my bi/tri machine handle. too painful so I am forced to use the angled E-Z curl part.
Any suggestions please?

According to EMG research, hammer grip curls recruit as many as 10 percent more fibers than supinated curls.

==Scott==
I recall Arnold using lots of hammer curls, thumbs up. I prefer those to standard palm up curls.I think it's works both forearm and bicep.


Cool, ive been using a Matrix preacher curl machine with a hammer grip of late, my arms are looking fuller after just few weeks (using a host of techniques from one workout to the next).
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entsminger

Virginia, USA

Tridentine wrote:
anyone want to trade a plate loaded bi tri in excellent[like new] condition for a multi bi and tri?


==Scott==
Didn?t we already go through this? I don?t think you?ll find the multi any better than what you have. It?s hard to even give those away.
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sirloin

Crotalus wrote:
entsminger wrote

==Scott==
I recall Arnold using lots of hammer curls, thumbs up. I prefer those to standard palm up curls.I think it's works both forearm and bicep.

My favorite biceps exercise is low incline hammer curls. I don't like straight, palms up curls at all.


Their good. Ever try a hammer grip concentraction curl? Their good too, ya get a great contraction:)

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